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BH06SS/SC 12-19-2006 07:59 AM

GM Stage 3 Install Questions
 
I apologize if this has been covered, I searched and got no result.

1. Has anybody purchased the Stage 3 kit yet?
2. If so, did the install take longer due to the intercooler end-plate?
3. Also, after everything was bought/shipped/installed, how much did it cost total?

Thanks in advance. :)

Wleee 12-19-2006 08:08 AM

Stage 3 is like a stock-market right now.. its all over, people's questions are everywhere, its chaotic.. you need S2 to have S3.. you need S1 to have S2 and S1&S2 to have S3.. lol..

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...Kits-C196.aspx

visit here.. it'll show you all..

here's the thread that was started about S3 straight from Crate Engine Depot.. https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...ighlight=stage

and here are the instructions using PDF format..
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/pdfs/s3ins.pdf

hope this helps you out a little bit..

BH06SS/SC 12-19-2006 09:42 AM

Thanks for that reply bro. Pretty much answered all my questions. I honestly didn't know you had to have Stage 2 to go to 3. That kinda puts a rain on my parade. :cussing:

R33P3R007 12-19-2006 09:48 AM

johnkb8 has a stage 2 in his room brand new in the box, and he is trying to sell his car. maybe he will give you a deal on the kit

EthensCobalt 12-20-2006 06:04 PM

WOW s3 huh ........ for that price you may as well get intense stage 5
look everyone it really does nitrous setup

Red2.4SS/SC 12-20-2006 06:23 PM

wow so there really is a stage 3 out thats nuts i wonder if it will be worth it?? i dont like the idea of shooting nitrous , im getting hp tuners after xmas so hopefully i can gain some more power off the stage 2 tune that i have right now

USMCFieldMP 12-20-2006 06:43 PM

The PCM is more for the Adjustable rev limiter and the 100 Octane Fuel mode, in my eyes. You get about 15 more horse with 100 Octane mode!

05redline 12-20-2006 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by EthensCobalt
WOW s3 huh ........ for that price you may as well get intense stage 5
look everyone it really does nitrous setup

I've yet to see any intense kits alone put down close to 260 WHP. This kits blow the intense away, and doesn't blow up your car.

SSweet06 12-20-2006 07:21 PM

I put down 262hp with Stage 4 with intake and cat-back. Pretty much just the kit alone.

blackphoenix 12-20-2006 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by 05redline
I've yet to see any intense kits alone put down close to 260 WHP. This kits blow the intense away, and doesn't blow up your car.

enough said.. no one with a gm stage kit and tune has reported a blown motor.. everyone with intense or custom tunes has. i'm suprised no one has realized this yet. who cares if someone else makes 10 or 15 more hp.. i'd much rather not have the extra hp and know that my care is safe to run everyday.

zinner 12-20-2006 07:45 PM

The pulley is listed as 76 mm isn't that the same as the Stage 2 pulley ?

zinner 12-20-2006 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by blackphoenix
enough said.. no one with a gm stage kit and tune has reported a blown motor.. everyone with intense or custom tunes has. i'm suprised no one has realized this yet. who cares if someone else makes 10 or 15 more hp.. i'd much rather not have the extra hp and know that my care is safe to run everyday.

I don't think thats true, I think their has been one GM stage 2 engine go belly up.

Matty 12-20-2006 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by blackphoenix
enough said.. no one with a gm stage kit and tune has reported a blown motor.. everyone with intense or custom tunes has. i'm suprised no one has realized this yet. who cares if someone else makes 10 or 15 more hp.. i'd much rather not have the extra hp and know that my care is safe to run everyday.

My HPTune is fine. So are alot of others.

USMCFieldMP 12-20-2006 08:55 PM

And with the prices that Crateenginedepopt is offering... the whole Stage 3 kit costs just as much as only getting the Intercooler plate and PCM. So there is no advantage to getting them separate.

Blown 4-banger 12-20-2006 10:36 PM

I wonder if someone got a hold of the stage 3 pcm if we could tune the 100 octane mode and stuff. I need something like that BAD!!!

CobaltSS422 12-20-2006 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by zinner
The pulley is listed as 76 mm isn't that the same as the Stage 2 pulley ?


I thought the GM Stage 2 pulley was 77.9mm



Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
And with the prices that Crateenginedepopt is offering... the whole Stage 3 kit costs just as much as only getting the Intercooler plate and PCM. So there is no advantage to getting them separate.



well that 625 for Stage 3 is a good price but don't forget u need Stage 2 as well.. So about 1200 bucks total for parts

Blown 4-banger 12-20-2006 10:43 PM

MOPAR stage 3 is WAY better

USMCFieldMP 12-20-2006 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
MOPAR stage 3 is WAY better

Ferrari is way better too:twothumbs ! But that's life.

Haha, Just playing. I do wish Gm would release a stage kit with some SERIOUS HP. Like a Whipple Swap or something. But my friend with Mopar Stage 3 said it is NOT WARRANTIED. SO that sucks.

Blown 4-banger 12-20-2006 11:46 PM

Its also 310 hp on 100 octane! Trust me mopar stage 3 kicks ass! I've driven a stage 3 srt4, its a wild ride!

XenSS06 12-20-2006 11:52 PM

If we were to keep the Stage 3 pcm in at all times what kind of fuel milage would we be looking at?

USMCFieldMP 12-21-2006 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by XenSS06
If we were to keep the Stage 3 pcm in at all times what kind of fuel milage would we be looking at?

Same as Now. The 100Octane Feature is going to be an option you can turn on and off.

USMCFieldMP 12-21-2006 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Its also 310 hp on 100 octane! Trust me mopar stage 3 kicks ass! I've driven a stage 3 srt4, its a wild ride!

No... it's 310 hp Regular... NO TOYS. With the 100octane switch on it's 355 hp at 5200 rpm and 365 ft.-lbs. of torque at 3200–4800 rpm!

Cobalt Mav 12-21-2006 12:24 AM

Are we going to be able to run the 8000 redline on the stock internals?

USMCFieldMP 12-21-2006 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by Cobalt Mav
Are we going to be able to run the 8000 redline on the stock internals?

NO NO NO NO! You will DEFINITELY have to change out AT LEAST your stock Valve springs to do that. I think they Float at like 7600 RPM.

BCobaltSS 12-21-2006 06:36 PM

Questions

1) Is the pulley a 2.9
2) Do you need the bypas in order to run this or can just bu the PCM and a 2.9 pulley and be alright?
3) Whe nthey say a less restrictive exhaust system is requried . Would the GMpp sport or touring work?


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