gm stage 3 is in ready to rock
09-19-2006, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by xxdarkbladexx
IF YOU GUYS DONT BUY STAGE 3 GM WILL GO BROKE AND STOP MAKING COBALTS AND THEN GO BANKRUPT AND I WONT HAVE MY CAR AND YOU GUYS WONT HAVE ANY PERFORMANCE PARTS, besides be glad they came out with a car that has performance parts availabe it could be much worse and you can only buy aftermarket that make your car all show and no go then we'd all be no better than any ricer, besides that if you expect a supercharger upgrade why should they warranty a car thats running 17 ibs of boost?
09-19-2006, 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by xxdarkbladexx
IF YOU GUYS DONT BUY STAGE 3 GM WILL GO BROKE AND STOP MAKING COBALTS AND THEN GO BANKRUPT AND I WONT HAVE MY CAR AND YOU GUYS WONT HAVE ANY PERFORMANCE PARTS, besides be glad they came out with a car that has performance parts availabe it could be much worse and you can only buy aftermarket that make your car all show and no go then we'd all be no better than any ricer, besides that if you expect a supercharger upgrade why should they warranty a car thats running 17 ibs of boost?
09-19-2006, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by xxdarkbladexx
IF YOU GUYS DONT BUY STAGE 3 GM WILL GO BROKE AND STOP MAKING COBALTS AND THEN GO BANKRUPT AND I WONT HAVE MY CAR AND YOU GUYS WONT HAVE ANY PERFORMANCE PARTS, besides be glad they came out with a car that has performance parts availabe it could be much worse and you can only buy aftermarket that make your car all show and no go then we'd all be no better than any ricer, besides that if you expect a supercharger upgrade why should they warranty a car thats running 17 ibs of boost?
09-19-2006, 06:22 AM
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GM marketing person said it take 12-15 months to come out with a product for them. so thats why. he was just recently hired for the position and didnt know why stage 2 took so long to develop.
09-19-2006, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by xxdarkbladexx
IF YOU GUYS DONT BUY STAGE 3 GM WILL GO BROKE AND STOP MAKING COBALTS AND THEN GO BANKRUPT AND I WONT HAVE MY CAR AND YOU GUYS WONT HAVE ANY PERFORMANCE PARTS, besides be glad they came out with a car that has performance parts availabe it could be much worse and you can only buy aftermarket that make your car all show and no go then we'd all be no better than any ricer, besides that if you expect a supercharger upgrade why should they warranty a car thats running 17 ibs of boost?
get a life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09-19-2006, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialK
Well it's been said before and I'll say it again just for the sake of saying it. Stage 3's biggest gain comes from the nitrous! Seriously. Once you go stage 3 then its' obviosu you want power. Well with this car hoenstly the best way to get a lot of power is by using squeeze. The blower is not gonna provide the end all to be all of power that so many think it will. The best part of this motor is the fact once you do hit 300whp all you have to do is pistons and springs. then your set. Maybe 400 can come from a fully built motor with an eye on maximizing the blowers capabilities. Maybe, but it'll be one hell of a streach.
GM's stage 3? Right nwo I say its' crap. Though noone's bought one and ran it to it's limit yet so hoenstly I can't pass final judgement. So for now, I'd say it's maybe not the best value. Esp when they won't honor warrenty work on it.
GM's stage 3? Right nwo I say its' crap. Though noone's bought one and ran it to it's limit yet so hoenstly I can't pass final judgement. So for now, I'd say it's maybe not the best value. Esp when they won't honor warrenty work on it.
U may be right about Stage 3 and the Nitrous, but I don't think GM when they 1st design the Redline/Cobalt SS were thinking just straight up power. They were balancing the car out. They tuned the 1st Ion Redline on the Nurburgring(sp) and thats not a wide open track w/ a lot of Straight aways. its a very twisty and has a lot of elevation change.
10-10-2006, 11:38 AM
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most people who didnt post bogus bullshit dynos are putting down about 230-240 with stage 2, catback, cai for mods. Without the catback and cai they would be about 225. Sounds about right for gm's 241 rating at the motor. So if they made 247 with stage 3 at the wheels, thats about the 260 at the motor they claim. Sounds right to me.
You guys and your bullshit 220-230 stock dynos are the problem, not gm. You want power and real stage kits attached to a **** interior and design, buy a neon. You want an awesome built performer all around, stick with the cobalt.
If you guys wanted 300hp, you bought the wrong car
You guys and your bullshit 220-230 stock dynos are the problem, not gm. You want power and real stage kits attached to a **** interior and design, buy a neon. You want an awesome built performer all around, stick with the cobalt.
If you guys wanted 300hp, you bought the wrong car
10-10-2006, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by purevl
most people who didnt post bogus bullshit dynos are putting down about 230-240 with stage 2, catback, cai for mods. Without the catback and cai they would be about 225. Sounds about right for gm's 241 rating at the motor. So if they made 247 with stage 3 at the wheels, thats about the 260 at the motor they claim. Sounds right to me.
You guys and your bullshit 220-230 stock dynos are the problem, not gm. You want power and real stage kits attached to a **** interior and design, buy a neon. You want an awesome built performer all around, stick with the cobalt.
If you guys wanted 300hp, you bought the wrong car
You guys and your bullshit 220-230 stock dynos are the problem, not gm. You want power and real stage kits attached to a **** interior and design, buy a neon. You want an awesome built performer all around, stick with the cobalt.
If you guys wanted 300hp, you bought the wrong car
10-10-2006, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by purevl
most people who didnt post bogus bullshit dynos are putting down about 230-240 with stage 2, catback, cai for mods. Without the catback and cai they would be about 225. Sounds about right for gm's 241 rating at the motor. So if they made 247 with stage 3 at the wheels, thats about the 260 at the motor they claim. Sounds right to me.
You guys and your bullshit 220-230 stock dynos are the problem, not gm. You want power and real stage kits attached to a **** interior and design, buy a neon. You want an awesome built performer all around, stick with the cobalt.
If you guys wanted 300hp, you bought the wrong car
You guys and your bullshit 220-230 stock dynos are the problem, not gm. You want power and real stage kits attached to a **** interior and design, buy a neon. You want an awesome built performer all around, stick with the cobalt.
If you guys wanted 300hp, you bought the wrong car
I pulled 223 stock, how is that bullshit?? A lot of people I know have pulled 260 with stage 2 and just an intake (which really does not do much on these cars a all)
10-10-2006, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by purevl
most people who didnt post bogus bullshit dynos are putting down about 230-240 with stage 2, catback, cai for mods. Without the catback and cai they would be about 225. Sounds about right for gm's 241 rating at the motor. So if they made 247 with stage 3 at the wheels, thats about the 260 at the motor they claim. Sounds right to me.
You guys and your bullshit 220-230 stock dynos are the problem, not gm. You want power and real stage kits attached to a **** interior and design, buy a neon. You want an awesome built performer all around, stick with the cobalt.
If you guys wanted 300hp, you bought the wrong car
You guys and your bullshit 220-230 stock dynos are the problem, not gm. You want power and real stage kits attached to a **** interior and design, buy a neon. You want an awesome built performer all around, stick with the cobalt.
If you guys wanted 300hp, you bought the wrong car
your a tool.
tons of people have dynos that prove 220-230 stock. I personally have seen people dyno 220-230 on the same dyno I dynoed 211 on stock. on the same day when i went right after them. How can you say everyone's dynoing 230-240 stage 2. I have yet to dyno my stage 2. but i have dynoed my car with the cti header and downpipe and put 236 down.
and 300hp is reachable no problem. you just need the money to do it right.
10-10-2006, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by crossed over
dam why not make the car so it can handle 300hp and look nice inside and out instead of one or the other.
10-10-2006, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by purevl
most people who didnt post bogus bullshit dynos are putting down about 230-240 with stage 2, catback, cai for mods. Without the catback and cai they would be about 225. Sounds about right for gm's 241 rating at the motor. So if they made 247 with stage 3 at the wheels, thats about the 260 at the motor they claim. Sounds right to me.
You guys and your bullshit 220-230 stock dynos are the problem, not gm. You want power and real stage kits attached to a **** interior and design, buy a neon. You want an awesome built performer all around, stick with the cobalt.
If you guys wanted 300hp, you bought the wrong car
You guys and your bullshit 220-230 stock dynos are the problem, not gm. You want power and real stage kits attached to a **** interior and design, buy a neon. You want an awesome built performer all around, stick with the cobalt.
If you guys wanted 300hp, you bought the wrong car
10-10-2006, 03:10 PM
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I'm sorry, but I have to go there. You are definately a competent car guy considering what sits in your garage. However, it really pisses me off when people say "well you should have bought a V8, or you bought the wrong car for 300hp." What if some of us want a modern "sleeper" like people used to have back in the muscle car days. 300whp is obtainable in these cars. And for that matter 300whp in a 2900lb car will keep up if not pass those lovely V8's too. I handed a new 6.0L GTO with a 6spd his @$$ three times in a row with just GM Stage 2, intake and a exhaust. His driving was up to par as well. To each his own though. That's my $.02!
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10-10-2006, 04:19 PM
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I guess Modern Performance uses some BS dynos too considering I dynoed my SS/SC at the same place they do and I made 230whp in 3rd 220ishwhp in 4th (heatsoaked as it was one right after the other) with a k&n intake on a dynojet dynometer. Humidity was 89%, ground temp was around 90 degrees.
10-10-2006, 04:23 PM
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I don't know why anyone would consider the GM kits now anyways. The aftermarket is better and cheaper. **** your warranty, it's quite evident that GM doesn't like honoring any claims on these cars anyways.
10-10-2006, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BooSSted
I don't know why anyone would consider the GM kits now anyways. The aftermarket is better and cheaper. **** your warranty, it's quite evident that GM doesn't like honoring any claims on these cars anyways.
I have yet to have any issue with warrenty and likely never will
10-10-2006, 05:08 PM
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BTW, some people asked about the exhaust and there were some that said it sounded sooooooo nice. Someone said the name of the company was Random Technology....I have found their website http://www.randomtechnology.com/ and I have sent an email to see if they are going to sell the exhaust or at least to get the specs on the exhaust so that maybe if someone wanted too, could have it built locally.
their email is pricing@randomtechnology.com or tech@randomtechnology.com
I say hit them up and with enough requests, they might release something or at leat give the specs.
Edit** Got the answer from Clay "We sell part number 51-27007 (converter back system) for $655.51"
their email is pricing@randomtechnology.com or tech@randomtechnology.com
I say hit them up and with enough requests, they might release something or at leat give the specs.
Edit** Got the answer from Clay "We sell part number 51-27007 (converter back system) for $655.51"
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
I'm sorry, but I have to go there. You are definately a competent car guy considering what sits in your garage. However, it really pisses me off when people say "well you should have bought a V8, or you bought the wrong car for 300hp." What if some of us want a modern "sleeper" like people used to have back in the muscle car days. 300whp is obtainable in these cars. And for that matter 300whp in a 2900lb car will keep up if not pass those lovely V8's too. I handed a new 6.0L GTO with a 6spd his @$$ three times in a row with just GM Stage 2, intake and a exhaust. His driving was up to par as well. To each his own though. That's my $.02!
I think you meant the 04 5.7l I would believe that.A shitty driver can go low 13's...so what did you run at the track with your stage 2? 13.0? 12.7? IF you did beat him, you neat the worst driver on planet earth or he was missing both arms and shifting with his dick
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Originally Posted by Tofu
I guess Modern Performance uses some BS dynos too considering I dynoed my SS/SC at the same place they do and I made 230whp in 3rd 220ishwhp in 4th (heatsoaked as it was one right after the other) with a k&n intake on a dynojet dynometer. Humidity was 89%, ground temp was around 90 degrees.
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Originally Posted by R33P3R007
your a tool.
tons of people have dynos that prove 220-230 stock. I personally have seen people dyno 220-230 on the same dyno I dynoed 211 on stock. on the same day when i went right after them. How can you say everyone's dynoing 230-240 stage 2. I have yet to dyno my stage 2. but i have dynoed my car with the cti header and downpipe and put 236 down.
and 300hp is reachable no problem. you just need the money to do it right.
tons of people have dynos that prove 220-230 stock. I personally have seen people dyno 220-230 on the same dyno I dynoed 211 on stock. on the same day when i went right after them. How can you say everyone's dynoing 230-240 stage 2. I have yet to dyno my stage 2. but i have dynoed my car with the cti header and downpipe and put 236 down.
and 300hp is reachable no problem. you just need the money to do it right.