Hey just wanted to know what everyone is thinking for the next big thing for our ss/sc. personaly i think a bigger supercharger (m-90)?? maybe. And another flash for the ecm. What Do You Think???

 

YAY a stage kit thread. we only had 2 so far today, thanks for meeting our quota.


.......Nobody knows really, info shows that much more will definetly need to include a clutch or recommend one at least

 

The m90's snout is too big and the blower won't bolt up to the stock manifold without an adapter plate.

Wait for turbo conversion kits to come out for the 2.0L

 

I think it would be nice if the cobalt comunity didnt rely on GM to spoon feed us all our mods ... I think it creates a lazy aftermarket ..


(*though it would be easy to argue that this was not the case for the SRT)

 

^^^ agree'd

 

Good lord....................

 

i'm kinda unsure about how much hp the block and head can handle. I have a friend here at school who co-op's with GM in NY and he says the LSJ blocks and heads he's seen come through for inspection are **** and the only reason GM is using them is cuz they're cheap as **** to make, hence why they are ****. He actually said that the ecotec head and block are stonger than that of the LSJ. i think once people start running serious mods...i.e. turbo conv....you're going to see more blocks and heads going.

 

well put my friend.... accept it is warrentied from gm.... as for a stage 3... i dont know, maybe a smaller pully yet, and another reflash.... kinda sucks they dont include like the gmpp exhaust in the kit and stuff, my cost on the stage 1 is 385 plus tax.... id for sure pay $500+ if i got the exhaust too.... who knows

 

well personally im going to go on the basis that your friend doesnt know **** so...i believe there is a saying 'dont believe everything you hear' ill add to it 'especially when its from a stupid kid'.

 

thats what im tlaking about!!!

But more than likely there will some sort of flash and smaller pulley, im guessing.

 

yeah a huge turbo like this guy has

 

look at that BOV!

 

ok maybe more like this one in the top right.

 

Did you know that the LSJ is an ecotec? Same block. Your friends a moron.

 

thanks, my soda is on my monitor now! lol

 

#1, your stupid for having a stupid friend and beliving him
#2, your stupid for not reading on this site at all?

i.e ECOTEC is the LSJ

#3, The LSJ head + Block are used in drag racing you moron! GO read the build book!

and while your at it, tell your friend (WHo is full of poopie) To kill himslef!

How dare U talk about the ECOtecs like u or your friend know sumin! MORON!

 

LOL you guys need to calm down in here. So the guy's info is wrong who cares.

What you need to do is tell him the truth without "go kill yourself" **** in there. Some people I guess.

 

lol, agreed

 

It it me or is that the BIGGEST can of baked beans anyone has ever seen?
Now i know how he powers that turbo!

 

there has been something in another thread about how the block wouldnt be able to handle gm stage 3..... search

 

im pretty sure the block can hold way more then you can throw at it. the crank and rods can easily push 500ish(guess). the only thing i see thats holding the lsj bak is the pistons...

 

I read somewhere that the stock internals have held up to around 280 or 290 hp after that you gotta go to the build book

 

I seriously wouldnt expect GM to put a motor with internals that can handle 500hp daily in their Cobalt SS/SC. Its just not a good way of doing business, alot of money can saved making a motor that can only handle stock power. In this case GM Stage kits, so what 40 more hp? Since GM is a busniess I'd imagine they want to make as much money as possible.

Not saying you cant go far and above that but I wouldnt be surprised to start seeing serious longevity issues. If I get 50k-75k out of my motor I'll be surprised (once I've installed a different turbo)...Theres always a price to play....

Not saying the motor is crap at all. But very few motors have been proven to be "bullet proof" from the factory. MOST of these are not forced induction (the engine killer)....Since its so easy to make big power in a f/i car, without doing any internals....

 

Has anyone ever questioned why there is so much room in the engine bay on the belt side of the motor?

 

I had the same thought. It looks like there is room for something.......but what?