Good news 2.0 peeps!
I am happy and sad at the same time.
Sad because they won't have factory modifications or stage kits that could easily push an extra 20 HP out of my 2.4l
Happy because I didn't jump the gun and buy my car too soon when I could've waited a year and got the better deal.
Sad because they won't have factory modifications or stage kits that could easily push an extra 20 HP out of my 2.4l
Happy because I didn't jump the gun and buy my car too soon when I could've waited a year and got the better deal.
I'd just like to know what it says about the 2.0 SC Balt cause now I'm doubting what I was told by Jason on the whole thing.
I guess I should have waited till I got the mag, read it myself and posted it up. Oh well looks like this back fired in my face.
DAMN YOU JASON!
LSJ
Ecotec LSJ engine in a 2006 Saturn ION Red Line
The LSJ is a de-stroked (to 86 mm) version of the L61 Ecotec with an Eaton M62 Roots-type supercharger and air-to-liquid intercooler. It is rated at 205 hp and 200 ftˇlbf. With the end of the Chevy Cobalt SS and Ion, ***The LSJ will no longer be available in a production car after 2007.***
The LSJ was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2006.
This engine is used in:
2004-2007 Saturn ION Red Line
2005-2007 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe
L61
The basic Family II architecture was substantially reengineered in 2000, becoming the Ecotec 2.2, model L61 (or L42 for the CNG version). First appearing in the 2000 Saturn LS1, the L61 spread throughout North American GM products, displacing the Quad 4 and its descendents.
Unlike its notably harsh predecessor, the L61 was designed for smoothness. dual in-block balance shafts were integral to the design, and all accessories were mounted directly to the engine block to reduce vibration. The oil filter was cast into the block with a removable cover and replaceable paper element.
Displacement is 2.2 l (2189 cc) with an 86 mm (3.38 in) bore and 94.6 mm (3.72 in) stroke. Compression is 9.5:1 or 10:1, delivering 135 hp to 143 hp (101 kW to 107 kW) and 142 ftˇlbf to 152 ftˇlbf (193 Nˇm to 206 Nˇm) of torque. The Ecotec line is manufactured in Tonawanda, New York, Kaiserslautern, Germany, and (for Saturn) in Spring Hill, Tennessee. The L61-powered Saturn ION replaced the Saturn-powered Saturn S-Series.
There are a few variations to the standard L61. The new Chevrolet Malibu uses a version with electronic throttle control and a special unitized exhaust manifold and catalytic converter. The 2003 Saturn L-Series has a high output version with higher (10:1) compression and hotter camshaft. The Malibu and Saturn versions also use returnless fuel injection. There is also a stroked out version of the original 2.2L (the LE5 2.4L) that increases to 170 hp and 170 foot/pounds of torque, in the (2006) Saturn Ion 3.
***In 2007 the L61 was upgraded with Coil on plug ignition and a 32-bit computer.***
The 2.2 L Ecotec is used in the following cars:
2000-2002 Saturn L-Series
2001-2005 Vauxhall VX220/Opel Speedster
2002- Saturn VUE
2002-2004 Chevrolet Cavalier
2002-2004 Oldsmobile Alero
2002-2005 Pontiac Sunfire
2003-2005 Saturn L-Series (high output)
2003-2007 Saturn ION
2004 Chevrolet Classic
2004- Chevrolet Malibu
***2005- Chevrolet Cobalt (145 hp/155 ftˇlbf)***
Pontiac Grand Am
Opel Astra/Vauxhall/Holden Astra
Opel Vectra/Vauxhall/Holden Vectra
Opel Zafira/Vauxhall/Holden Zafira/Subaru Traviq
Following the GM-Fiat agreement, the 2.2 L engine is also used in
Fiat Croma
Alfa Romeo 159
Ecotec LSJ engine in a 2006 Saturn ION Red Line
The LSJ is a de-stroked (to 86 mm) version of the L61 Ecotec with an Eaton M62 Roots-type supercharger and air-to-liquid intercooler. It is rated at 205 hp and 200 ftˇlbf. With the end of the Chevy Cobalt SS and Ion, ***The LSJ will no longer be available in a production car after 2007.***
The LSJ was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2006.
This engine is used in:
2004-2007 Saturn ION Red Line
2005-2007 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe
L61
The basic Family II architecture was substantially reengineered in 2000, becoming the Ecotec 2.2, model L61 (or L42 for the CNG version). First appearing in the 2000 Saturn LS1, the L61 spread throughout North American GM products, displacing the Quad 4 and its descendents.
Unlike its notably harsh predecessor, the L61 was designed for smoothness. dual in-block balance shafts were integral to the design, and all accessories were mounted directly to the engine block to reduce vibration. The oil filter was cast into the block with a removable cover and replaceable paper element.
Displacement is 2.2 l (2189 cc) with an 86 mm (3.38 in) bore and 94.6 mm (3.72 in) stroke. Compression is 9.5:1 or 10:1, delivering 135 hp to 143 hp (101 kW to 107 kW) and 142 ftˇlbf to 152 ftˇlbf (193 Nˇm to 206 Nˇm) of torque. The Ecotec line is manufactured in Tonawanda, New York, Kaiserslautern, Germany, and (for Saturn) in Spring Hill, Tennessee. The L61-powered Saturn ION replaced the Saturn-powered Saturn S-Series.
There are a few variations to the standard L61. The new Chevrolet Malibu uses a version with electronic throttle control and a special unitized exhaust manifold and catalytic converter. The 2003 Saturn L-Series has a high output version with higher (10:1) compression and hotter camshaft. The Malibu and Saturn versions also use returnless fuel injection. There is also a stroked out version of the original 2.2L (the LE5 2.4L) that increases to 170 hp and 170 foot/pounds of torque, in the (2006) Saturn Ion 3.
***In 2007 the L61 was upgraded with Coil on plug ignition and a 32-bit computer.***
The 2.2 L Ecotec is used in the following cars:
2000-2002 Saturn L-Series
2001-2005 Vauxhall VX220/Opel Speedster
2002- Saturn VUE
2002-2004 Chevrolet Cavalier
2002-2004 Oldsmobile Alero
2002-2005 Pontiac Sunfire
2003-2005 Saturn L-Series (high output)
2003-2007 Saturn ION
2004 Chevrolet Classic
2004- Chevrolet Malibu
***2005- Chevrolet Cobalt (145 hp/155 ftˇlbf)***
Pontiac Grand Am
Opel Astra/Vauxhall/Holden Astra
Opel Vectra/Vauxhall/Holden Vectra
Opel Zafira/Vauxhall/Holden Zafira/Subaru Traviq
Following the GM-Fiat agreement, the 2.2 L engine is also used in
Fiat Croma
Alfa Romeo 159
your buddy is reading the GM addvertisement on page 42 it says that there was an increase in horse power in the 2.2 and 2.4 and then it says they get mid 20s (mpg) in the city it dosent say they get 20 extra horse power. on page 48 they have the horse power for the cobalts rated at 148-205. i think he was reading a little to quick
So this post made me start to wonder so I went to my Gm dealerworld and went to vehicle locate. Basicly you pick the yr make model color trim and extras for dealers. Now I don't know how reliable this is since 08's arn't out yet but lemme show you what I found
2008 Chevrolet 1AP37 - Cobalt: SS Supercharged Coupe
Color 1 34U- Rally Yellow
37U- Imperial Blue Metallic
39U-Blue Flash Metallic
41U- Black
50U- Summit White
74U- Victory Red
87U- Slate Metallic
95U- Ultra Silver Metallic
I didn't see anything about stage kits as options tho.
2008 Chevrolet 1AP37 - Cobalt: SS Supercharged Coupe
Color 1 34U- Rally Yellow
37U- Imperial Blue Metallic
39U-Blue Flash Metallic
41U- Black
50U- Summit White
74U- Victory Red
87U- Slate Metallic
95U- Ultra Silver Metallic
I didn't see anything about stage kits as options tho.
So how wikipedia has this info on the cobalt-ss site... saying that its dead (the ss/sc)
Now obviously wikipedia isn't know for its factual content being dead on, but they had to get it from somewhere...
-Rich
Now obviously wikipedia isn't know for its factual content being dead on, but they had to get it from somewhere...
-Rich
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So this post made me start to wonder so I went to my Gm dealerworld and went to vehicle locate. Basicly you pick the yr make model color trim and extras for dealers. Now I don't know how reliable this is since 08's arn't out yet but lemme show you what I found
2008 Chevrolet 1AP37 - Cobalt: SS Supercharged Coupe
Color 1 34U- Rally Yellow
37U- Imperial Blue Metallic
39U-Blue Flash Metallic
41U- Black
50U- Summit White
74U- Victory Red
87U- Slate Metallic
95U- Ultra Silver Metallic
I didn't see anything about stage kits as options tho.
2008 Chevrolet 1AP37 - Cobalt: SS Supercharged Coupe
Color 1 34U- Rally Yellow
37U- Imperial Blue Metallic
39U-Blue Flash Metallic
41U- Black
50U- Summit White
74U- Victory Red
87U- Slate Metallic
95U- Ultra Silver Metallic
I didn't see anything about stage kits as options tho.
Yes, GM's Contract with Eaton was up, however they are getting ready to add direct injection to all the inline 4 motors. I'm not sure of any power numbers, but i do know the LSJ is about to be done as far as production go's. that is all.
your buddy is reading the GM addvertisement on page 42 it says that there was an increase in horse power in the 2.2 and 2.4 and then it says they get mid 20s (mpg) in the city it dosent say they get 20 extra horse power. on page 48 they have the horse power for the cobalts rated at 148-205. i think he was reading a little to quick
Last edited by Jackalope; Jun 2, 2007 at 05:13 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Jason said tomorrow cause he's not done reading it. Unfortuetly I'm leaving for PA tonight
at 9:30 pm on a coal train so I won't be home till monday morning. When I get back hopefully it will be waiting for me and I'll post it up.
Sorry for the extra day guys but thats what happens with me working for the rail road.
at 9:30 pm on a coal train so I won't be home till monday morning. When I get back hopefully it will be waiting for me and I'll post it up.
Sorry for the extra day guys but thats what happens with me working for the rail road.
Last edited by Jackalope; Jun 2, 2007 at 08:19 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Jason said tomorrow cause he's not done reading it. Unfortuetly I'm leaving for PA tonight
at 9:30 pm on a coal train so I won't be home till monday morning. When I get back hopefully it will be waiting for me and I'll post it up.
Sorry for the extra day guys but thats what happens with me working for the rail road.
at 9:30 pm on a coal train so I won't be home till monday morning. When I get back hopefully it will be waiting for me and I'll post it up.
Sorry for the extra day guys but thats what happens with me working for the rail road.
the advertisment is about the 2007 chevy line up it basically says the ss/sc is the best in the line up and that it has 205 hp that can be upped with the gm stage kits
Well I'm home, Jason can't be found right now (probly at work)
And if your right it means Jason is a complete moron! So its NOT about the 08's?
And if your right it means Jason is a complete moron! So its NOT about the 08's?
Last edited by Jackalope; Jun 4, 2007 at 11:32 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost


