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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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Gravana Twincharger Response

I wrote to Jim at Gravana Tuning about their progress on their twincharger system and this the response I got......


Project is coming along slowly, as the installation is requiring serious mods (relocating the electrical and brake system boxes to the passenger side) to accommodate this type of installation. Since the kit cost will most-likely exceed $8k, and the inherent risk of relocating things like brake lines and electrical boxes will cause problems, we will probably not build these kits for consumer sales. We initially started the project with consumers in mind. However, we are finding this type of product to be far from consumer friendly.

On a lighter note, we are working on two alternate options. The first is a 20-30HP (approx.) upgrade. Since the pulleys are integrated on the Magnusons, it is not reliable to simply replace the pulley. Thus, we are working toward a front-end replacement that will offer a simple solution with no computer tuning needed. The second option is a complete Supercharger upgrade that will offer 75-100HP (approx.) over stock. Stay tuned and pray with us that we can get GM to cooperate with computer data on the second option!!!

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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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Sweet. Wonder what blower they are going to use for the upgrade. Also, I think it would be interesting to see vortech or someone to come out with a centrifigal blower upgrade, like they did with the '03-'04 cobra's. Or maybe even an intercooler upgrade like they make for the cobra's.
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 11:44 PM
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my bet is a m90. vamp, you better make up you mind if you want to swap in the m90 soon so you can be the first
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 02:27 AM
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Go ahead he can be the first to blow his engine too
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 08:14 AM
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Well, that just about ends it for me. The CSS was attractive to me as an alternative to the SRT-4 as I value my comfort pretty highly. That was assuming it could be modded to at least match the -4 in acceleration. I believed twin-charging would have been a very good step in that direction. While I do enjoy mid-range power more than most, the high-end pull of a turbo is calling my name.

I will still hold off on my purchase until I see what a s/c modification can achieve, but I am not optimistic.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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Go ahead he can be the first to blow his engine too

so i guess everyone is going to stay below 300hp because theyre afraid of their engine. Someone's gotta be first at everything.

And no, he doesnt necessarily have to blow his engine. There is a 4.2 pulley available for the m90 so he doesnt have to run a crazy amount of boost if he doesnt want to.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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I'm glad to here there is a confirmed account of upgrade kits being developed. Another 100hp would be nice.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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twin screw supercharger anybody?
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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so i guess everyone is going to stay below 300hp because theyre afraid of their engine. Someone's gotta be first at everything.

And no, he doesnt necessarily have to blow his engine. There is a 4.2 pulley available for the m90 so he doesnt have to run a crazy amount of boost if he doesnt want to.
mail me your m90, I'll put it on my car I am fearless
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by stuffy236
so i guess everyone is going to stay below 300hp because theyre afraid of their engine. Someone's gotta be first at everything.

And no, he doesnt necessarily have to blow his engine. There is a 4.2 pulley available for the m90 so he doesnt have to run a crazy amount of boost if he doesnt want to.

Hell no im looking to put out at least 350-400..i was just saying make sure the **** works and who really cares about being first...and yes i thought about putting the m90 on my car
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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I would definetly go for a twin screw some time in the future after the car is a little closer to paid off
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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PSI-FI is also working on a twin charging project. I don't think they are very far along either.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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I am selling my sc kit, but i already have a buyer. If anyone wants a m90 to work out an adaptor plate email GTPED@msn.com . He is a grand prix used parts dealer and he has a "few" SC laying around SCs usually cost about $200-300 for a complete SC.

The m90 will NOT bolt on. You will need to have an adaptor plate made for the oulter and the TB.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by clownhair
twin screw supercharger anybody?

i already contacted whipple and they say there are no projects in the making at this time. they said possibly after sema, but they're not sure.... does anyone else make a decent one?
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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i think a few superchargers(different choices) would be great. eaton's are very parasitic. they eat up alot of your power just to operate compared to the other brands
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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That sucks I was really excitied to see the CSS might be able to be "easily" twin charged and whoop some ass out on the road.... oh well
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
i already contacted whipple and they say there are no projects in the making at this time. they said possibly after sema, but they're not sure.... does anyone else make a decent one?
you can make one fit, just need an adapter plate man.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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you can make anything fit with enough adaptor plates
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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you can make anything fit with enough adaptor plates
That's what she said
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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So I am guess it looks like there won't be much to do to our cars?
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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i'm sure there will be plenty, we just need to wait and let someone start the ball rolling.... after that everyone will be on board
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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i think vamp had the best mentality when he PM'd me about an m90

It seems that everyone on this forum wants to mod their Cobalt SS to the max, but they want someone else to do it first . Well consider me the first bufflo off the cliff!
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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Of course there will be upgrades! This cars has gots lots of potential and the aftermarket and GM know it! For now, it just a waiting game.....
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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All good things come to those who wait !
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Well twin charging seemed im practical anyway...Well don't give your hope's up just yet out SS/SC's are fairly new still and soon enough we will have a vast aftermarket of parts...
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