well seeing as many dont look in the advanced section, i got a question some ppl may be able to help me, im switching to turbo in like 2 weeks, but my biggest thing is, when gutting my supercharger, could i get away with just removing the rotors and that would be it, or is there something else required to modify to my charger in order to utilize it as my intake manifold, i dont wanna design a bracket to hold the pulley up and the throttle body, plus itll look cool and be fairly easy

 

Its funny you posted this I have been reading on supercharge plus turbo . found this http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Super...dified_20Turbo

 

Say what now? Gutting the SC b/c you don't want to buy an intake manifold? Umm... dosen't sound like a good idea to me... sounds like you'd be losing a lot of power.

 

You can take out the rotors, and put on a block off plate i believe, and that should be fine, but i know you can take out the rotors, and use the casing.

 

hmmm what dop u mean by block off plate, and did you mean i cant take the rotors out and use the casing

raineman im going to a turbo, and i dont wanna custom fab a throttle body plate, technically id be fabbing a complete upper intake, to attach to my lower intake

 

id just remove the blower, sell it and use the money from that to buy an intake

 

Have you looked into the Saab Intake manifold from the 2.0 Turbo Saab 9-3s. From my understanding, they are electronic throttle body just like yours and might share the same characteristics as your car.

Look into it before you guy the charger when you could sell it and make some cash.

 

You need a block off plate to retain the oil on the snout section i believe.

 

just to make sure nobody missed this, QFT!

 

I might be doing the same thing man, since I haven't heard back from the shop thats supposed to be doing my turbo setup. I'll have my blower apart this weekend probably so I'll see what I can do to seal it up. Gonna give it a little porting for the time being since I'm stuck at the max power I can make with my setup right now.

 

Go search on the Cobra fourms, I know that a fair amount of them do something similar when going turbo.

 

yah time will tell, i wanna retain my factory aftercooler set-up so who knows maybe ill desgin an intake, but im gonna go lurk the cobra forums

 

Ok, there is a very easy solution to this. What you do, is unbolt your blower and remove the throttle body from it. Next, you place a sheet of metal over the hole where the blower was. Make it fit the stock s/c gasket. Next, make another gasket for the TB and attach it to another sheet of metal. Next, you take the two sheets of metal, cut a hole the size of the TB into both, and weld them together. You take the TB and bolt it in, as well as bolting the new plate to the manifold. This way you still use the stock aftercooler and you save the blower.

I've seen a picture just like this somewhere, and looked decent. Now I'm bad at describing things so theres a little more to it, but you get the idea. If I can find the pic I'll post it.

 

Why not just leave the functional supercharger on and add the turbo? No lag and more efferent top end peak boost... you could even buy a larger pulley than stock so the parasitic loss from the super would be made minimal.

 

i know on the GTP its possible so i dont see why not on the cobalt

 

because the m62 sucks at flowing air, and tuning for twin charged is the biggest pain in the ass for little gains. (M62 flows a max of 600 cfm if I'm not mistaken, turbo I'll be using 1200cfm lol)

 

Actually, the M62 flows 400cfm. Sucks.

 

And i was looking into twincharging possible. Neeeeermind.

 

So wait, doesn't that mean it doesn't suck? Or Blow for that matter.

 

why not sell the supercharger, that should get you more than enough to buy an intake manifold, or have one made, and you'll even have a few bucks left over.

 

as i know, theres one place thats has an intake manifold, but well see, i wanna see what i can do with using the supercharger as the manifold, one its less fab work, two it shoudnt technically be that hard, three my blades are fucked anyways

 

I have the old Ecotec build book and in there it describes the phase 5 Cobalt briefly but I believe it's the lsj turboed on 22lb's of boost running high 11's. I am seriously starting to consider loosing the supercharger, buying a turbo kit, and have Buschur racing try something crazy with my car. it's a dream for now but I'd love to be turboed and running in the 12's at least.

 

umm anyone think about the intake off of a sky?

 

good point, but i dont think there running a water to water intercooler, but ill look into it when i get home tonight

 

Gut the blower, get a block off plate for where the snout goes and be done with it. GTP guys do it all the time. I'm sure you can even port it (the blower) to get more air through it.