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Old 03-16-2010, 11:56 PM
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Harrop----ls4?

I going to get the harrop but I don't know if I should get the ls4 with it, like is it really worth the money, does it make a big different ? Because I would like to just stay the way it is and avoid doing that if it isn't worth it
Old 03-17-2010, 12:23 AM
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it will make some extra power but at a price, which is ease of use of the car itself

the car becomes quite jerky, damn annoying in traffic, just annoying in general
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What he said!
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It makes a differance, it's ok to drive once you get use to it, if your in rush hour it can kinda be tiresome but I would reccommend the ls4 to you if you know how to drive in the first place then you will be fine with it. I was able to over look it for the gains. The tvs was designed to use the ls4 but the stock throttle body will work just fine. Just know your intake system is now restrictive. Try the junk yard for an ls4 or ebay. I picked mine up for $54 bucks which is not bad at all for a price. Anyone that complains about the ls4s are just ones that couldn't grasp or relearn how to drive with it.

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you dont need it. no one has tested wheter or not you gain or loose power by adding one
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yeah i always wanted it and with the deal it was only $25, but then it's like you have to buy a 3" intake which is like 300. so i wanted it but i dont want the hassel so i dont want it....and darkman do you think i should eliminate the torque management or no?
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Originally Posted by Darkmanx
you dont need it. no one has tested wheter or not you gain or loose power by adding one
it has been tested there was a thread on here about it with before and after dyno charts it made 21 more hp under the curve so yes it is worth it just re,learn how to drive your car i have and love the throttle response and the bottom and mod torque increase it gives
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I've been thinking more and more about doing a tvs, hmmm maybe before ced if I deside to go that route.
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
it has been tested there was a thread on here about it with before and after dyno charts it made 21 more hp under the curve so yes it is worth it just re,learn how to drive your car i have and love the throttle response and the bottom and mod torque increase it gives
Yeah I thought I saw that before I just wasn't going to bring it up and look like an ass cause I didn't want to be like the only one. And it it very responsive, and it can be quite jerky to but only if you don't know how to drive or adapt to it, I love mine with my m62 and I'll be using with my Tvs as well. I think it worth the gains exspecially considering I only paid $54 for my ls4
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
it has been tested there was a thread on here about it with before and after dyno charts it made 21 more hp under the curve so yes it is worth it just re,learn how to drive your car i have and love the throttle response and the bottom and mod torque increase it gives
By a legit source not shady rebel.
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I second that
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dark, you have an ls4 handy?
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Originally Posted by Darkmanx
By a legit source not shady rebel.
FYI My RAW 3" intake.. FITS LIKE ****... glad i bought it cheap..
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Originally Posted by Tennpenn83
dark, you have an ls4 handy?
no i never tryed one , never saw the need to. lol why u want me to test on?e
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Originally Posted by Darkmanx
no i never tryed one , never saw the need to. lol why u want me to test on?e
well... i figure if you went through the trouble of a ported head dyno...
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Originally Posted by Darkmanx
By a legit source not shady rebel.
FWIW, when Harrop made the TVS1320, they designed it around use of a LS4 TB.
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
FWIW, when Harrop made the TVS1320, they designed it around use of a LS4 TB.
why is everyone thats making any power on a tvs using a stock one? and even the guys that have one sold it. except for rodium and you see how much power he makes and he hates to listen

Originally Posted by Tennpenn83
well... i figure if you went through the trouble of a ported head dyno...
i have enough trouble driving my car as is . im gonna feel the power from the ls4 as much as i feel this 14whp that k and n claims

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Originally Posted by Darkmanx
why is everyone thats making any power on a tvs using a stock one? and even the guys that have one sold it. except for rodium and you see how much power he makes and he hates to listen
because it is less drivable. but regardless of its drivability, that doesnt change the fact that the TVS was designed with a LS4 TB in mind. I dont think i'd use a LS4 TB if i got the TVS, but still...facts be facts
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hey dark i know you would feel the diference
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i struggle with a frickin' exedy some days and I think i know how to drive....LS4 is not for me....
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ill be putting mine back on in a few weeks During the winter I just cant drive in the snow with that touchy of a throttle
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Send me one and I'll test it
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Originally Posted by qwikredline
i struggle with a frickin' exedy some days and I think i know how to drive....LS4 is not for me....

I really hate driving other people's manual vehicles now that I am so used to my clutch. And I forget to mention it to other people when they want to drive my car. Of course, I remember after they have stalled the car out a few times in a row.

But, all in all, I can't imagine going back to another clutch.




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