Hey guys looking into buying a cobalt..the guy says it has stage 2 was wondering how i can find that out??? and also the car has air ride would that make or break my handling let me know

Thanks in advance
Jordan

 

when you drive the car, if it boosts to 15, it's stage 2. if it boosts to 12 it's stock


as far as bags, I don't know anything about them

good luck man

 

ok cool thanks.. now is there a way he could have just put a smaller pulley so it can boost that high?

 

look at the pulley itself i think it might say stage 2. not sure. also ask him what injectors are in it. and don't be like hey the stage2 has 42# injectors what does this have. just say "hey so it has a smaller pulley on there, did you upgrade the injectors as well"

as for air ride. i've heard mix oppinions on it. but either way. i'm almost 100% its not track legal

 

yeah he could have done that but I highly doubt it. the stage 2 kit consists of the pulley and bigger injectors. he would be nuts to run 3 more pounds of air with no fuel. that motor would hate him

also, if he put on a legitimate GM stage 2 kit, not a custom setup, the bolts that come with the kit for the pulley are blue. can't miss them

 

yeah i knew there was something different about the bolts but i couldn't put my finger on it. and what i meant by asking him about the injectors that way is that by "playing dumb" it will let you know if hes bsing you or not. if he says no its the stock injectors, then its more than likely not a stage2. but if he says yeah the stage2 come with a smaller pulley and larger injectors. i'ld buy from him

 

yeah don't let him know how much information you have. play dumb

 

ok cool that makes sence...i am going to do stage 3 with it most likely..just wondering what i could do for traction problems..as in motor mounts tranny mounts H brace..anything else?? and also was wondering about a LSD any thoughts on that??

 

I probably wouldn't bother with stage 3 IMO

for traction, you want solid motor mounts from ttr and poly inserts for the trans mounts, also from ttr. click the link in my signature. aside from that, look into clutches and maybe an ingalls torque dampener

and for the lsd, if it doesn't already have one, don't bother. it's hard to find them and you have to rip the trans apart to install it. I don't have one and although I can say I wouldn't mind having one from the factory, it wouldn't be worth it to install it on my own. the cost outweighs the benefit IMO

 

why would you not run stage 3??

 

because as far as I know it's really just a PCM that's tuned for a 50 shot. you can run that without a tune and if anything I'd go with a custom tune.

 

Not to mention the Stg3 PCM is locked so you can't even go get a custom tune.

 

^^^^x2 forgot about that

stage 3 ftl

 

ok so then what should i do??..and i want the 50% boost in 1st that would help alot..give me your ideas guys

 

what are your plans for the car, also whats the price tag on this thing, how many miles etc.

 

air ride = heavy...... heavy = bad.......

 

^look he's on again lol. but gotta go with forrest, i've heard for every extra 100lbs isa tenth of a second of your quarter mile not to mention li 5-10% fuel economy, don't quote me

 

get the vin and call gm. they can give you the dealership it came from then call the dealer and ask what was done to it such as your stage 2. they might say they cant give out the info but if you just let them know that you are purchasing the car they will tell you the performance mods from dealer

 

Bags aren't necessary on our car...I would think it'll make the ride softer when it needs to be tighter, but I don't know.

You don't want 50% boost in 1st and/or 2nd.

 

my plans are as follows...

Stage 3
50 shot
2.8 pulley
60 lb injectors
full 3' exhaust
downpipe
bigg front mount
meth
then traction problems come

Give me ideas

 

no stage 3 because the pcm is locked and you wont be able to tune it.

 

As stated: stage 3 pcm can't be tuned so there's no point in running 60lb injectors. You can run the 2.8 on a stage 2 or stage 3 pcm without excessive lean. 3" exhaust is worthless on a non-turbo redline er...cobalt ss sc.

 

You can see the injectors underneath the fuel rail. If the tops are green they are stock.

 

cant i get a custom tune?? and not use their pcm?