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Anyone else have any input on this?
you will NOT void ur warranty... there is no way the dealership can say **** about a smaller pulley... it's not like they're gonna take out ur injectors and look at them, and they certainly can not see the tune on ur car
stage kits come from the factory, if u get something equal to that, u can not void your warranty, and if they give you ****, the magnuson moss act will be your best friend
stage kits come from the factory, if u get something equal to that, u can not void your warranty, and if they give you ****, the magnuson moss act will be your best friend
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a little off topic but do you think i could buy the stock poineer sub/amp combo from the dealership? like the stock system is wicked but if its decent enough price why not get another, put it on the otherside...
back on topic, dont pay to get your system installed, maybe a deck if your doign that but a sub is simple, not to mention, if u didnt notice the battery is in the trunk, so to hook up a sub it would take like 10 minutes.you dont have to run wires or anything, just to the deck.
back on topic, dont pay to get your system installed, maybe a deck if your doign that but a sub is simple, not to mention, if u didnt notice the battery is in the trunk, so to hook up a sub it would take like 10 minutes.you dont have to run wires or anything, just to the deck.
when i removed my sub from the car, there was about 4" of depth to work with. So that will be shallow enough. The only thingI noticed is that it has 6 mounting holes while our stock system is 8. So you would have to drill holes in the mounting frame of the sub, which shouldnt be hard. the stock amp is a 270 watt 6-channel amp. I am going to take the wires running to the stock sub and run them to an amp that I will mount on the opposite side of the car. There will be a small amount of fabrecating, but not much at all really.
Anyone else have any input on this?
If you use aftermarket parts, or a non-gm tune, and they find out, you will have problems. Stage kits do not come from the factory.
Anyone else have any input on this?
If you use aftermarket parts, or a non-gm tune, and they find out, you will have problems. Stage kits do not come from the factory.
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why would he get a head unit? the stock head unit is just fine, it does pretty much everything except for play dvds and give you a blow job... if he went audio, all he'd have to do is get the subs, box, amp, and a line level converter
bullshit, chevy cant tell ur tuned... how are they gonna know? i think hp tuners is a little better than a gm tune there buddy, as long as u have someone that knows how to tune cars, it'd be fine... gm has stage kits from the factory u dingleberry...
bullshit, chevy cant tell ur tuned... how are they gonna know? i think hp tuners is a little better than a gm tune there buddy, as long as u have someone that knows how to tune cars, it'd be fine... gm has stage kits from the factory u dingleberry...
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why would he get a head unit? the stock head unit is just fine, it does pretty much everything except for play dvds and give you a blow job... if he went audio, all he'd have to do is get the subs, box, amp, and a line level converter
bullshit, chevy cant tell ur tuned... how are they gonna know? i think hp tuners is a little better than a gm tune there buddy, as long as u have someone that knows how to tune cars, it'd be fine... gm has stage kits from the factory u dingleberry...
bullshit, chevy cant tell ur tuned... how are they gonna know? i think hp tuners is a little better than a gm tune there buddy, as long as u have someone that knows how to tune cars, it'd be fine... gm has stage kits from the factory u dingleberry...
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you will NOT void ur warranty... there is no way the dealership can say **** about a smaller pulley... it's not like they're gonna take out ur injectors and look at them, and they certainly can not see the tune on ur ca
stage kits come from the factory, if u get something equal to that, u can not void your warranty, and if they give you ****, the magnuson moss act will be your best friend
stage kits come from the factory, if u get something equal to that, u can not void your warranty, and if they give you ****, the magnuson moss act will be your best friend
You guys swear that act will protect your ass.If they wanna void your warranty,they will.Its happened before.
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and i do believe he could also run a 2.8 pully on the "stage II" flash, and on the 42.5 lb injectors, all he would have to do is switch it out to the 3.0 pulley if he had problems
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why the hell would they read the PCM? if he had probs w. the car, its not hard to re-flash it u dick hole... im trying to give valid info here and am being criticized, why dont u smoke my pole and get off my ass... it's a lot cheaper to diy, then have gm do it for 1k+ if the tune is = to that of the gm tune, they can not say **** about it, bc IT COMES FROM THE FACTORY ALSO
and i do believe he could also run a 2.8 pully on the "stage II" flash, and on the 42.5 lb injectors, all he would have to do is switch it out to the 3.0 pulley if he had problems
and i do believe he could also run a 2.8 pully on the "stage II" flash, and on the 42.5 lb injectors, all he would have to do is switch it out to the 3.0 pulley if he had problems
And the tune will not be = to that of GM's otherwise why would you custom tune? He could run that pulley and switch it back if he had to go to the dealer but hes still maxing out the injectors. The stage II pulley is also 3.1" not 3.0".
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why the hell would they read the PCM? if he had probs w. the car, its not hard to re-flash it u dick hole... im trying to give valid info here and am being criticized, why dont u smoke my pole and get off my ass... it's a lot cheaper to diy, then have gm do it for 1k+ if the tune is = to that of the gm tune, they can not say **** about it, bc IT COMES FROM THE FACTORY ALSO
and i do believe he could also run a 2.8 pully on the "stage II" flash, and on the 42.5 lb injectors, all he would have to do is switch it out to the 3.0 pulley if he had problems
and i do believe he could also run a 2.8 pully on the "stage II" flash, and on the 42.5 lb injectors, all he would have to do is switch it out to the 3.0 pulley if he had problems
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are you ******* serious?
have ANY of you ever rebuilt and lsj, or let alone take one apart? have any of u have pcm problems? and chipmonk have u even read the gm build book?
he would use hp tuners is for tuning for stage II reasons only,not doing antything custom
have ANY of you ever rebuilt and lsj, or let alone take one apart? have any of u have pcm problems? and chipmonk have u even read the gm build book?
If the car has problems running chances are they'll take a look at the PCM if its going to save them money and labor. Yah its cheaper to diy but some of us cant afford to jeapordize the warranty, and if your not lazy you can get it for about $650-800 installed.
And the tune will not be = to that of GM's otherwise why would you custom tune? He could run that pulley and switch it back if he had to go to the dealer but hes still maxing out the injectors. The stage II pulley is also 3.1" not 3.0".
And the tune will not be = to that of GM's otherwise why would you custom tune? He could run that pulley and switch it back if he had to go to the dealer but hes still maxing out the injectors. The stage II pulley is also 3.1" not 3.0".
he would use hp tuners is for tuning for stage II reasons only,not doing antything custom
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If its not from GM and it changes the tune then it is custom.
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HPtuners can also result in a fooked car because of one tiny screw-up. This is why if they know the tune is not theirs they'll tell you to go pound sand. Stage II may not be the greatest tune in the world but with the heat from the Eaton it keeps the car within safe operating limits.
your right most dealerships dont know a whole lot about it. However they do know what to look for when it comes to abuse and modifying the car and trying to **** them over. If they get serious one visit from an engineer and your powertrain warranty can dissapear. Its not worth the risk IMO......
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ok........
HPtuners can also result in a fooked car because of one tiny screw-up. This is why if they know the tune is not theirs they'll tell you to go pound sand. Stage II may not be the greatest tune in the world but with the heat from the Eaton it keeps the car within safe operating limits.
your right most dealerships dont know a whole lot about it. However they do know what to look for when it comes to abuse and modifying the car and trying to **** them over. If they get serious one visit from an engineer and your powertrain warranty can dissapear. Its not worth the risk IMO......
HPtuners can also result in a fooked car because of one tiny screw-up. This is why if they know the tune is not theirs they'll tell you to go pound sand. Stage II may not be the greatest tune in the world but with the heat from the Eaton it keeps the car within safe operating limits.
your right most dealerships dont know a whole lot about it. However they do know what to look for when it comes to abuse and modifying the car and trying to **** them over. If they get serious one visit from an engineer and your powertrain warranty can dissapear. Its not worth the risk IMO......
my point was that he could do it himself for a lot cheaper
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Wow. my topic turned into a battlefield...
And yes I know I could find a mechanic to do it cheaper for me if I bought the kit online or something, but again I dont want to jeapordize my brand new cars warranty. Also, I am very NOT HANDY with anything that has to do with mechanics of an engine and even installing anything electronic. Cant do it. I cant even change my oil! lol
Anyway, I was thinking for cheaper, I could get a cold air intake and a GMPP catback exhaust system. Both cheaper then stage 2 by like $300, worth it and someday if they still exist down the line, get a stage 2? Again, chevy wants $1025 for the stage 2 and told me itd take 4-5 hours, no less.
And yes I know I could find a mechanic to do it cheaper for me if I bought the kit online or something, but again I dont want to jeapordize my brand new cars warranty. Also, I am very NOT HANDY with anything that has to do with mechanics of an engine and even installing anything electronic. Cant do it. I cant even change my oil! lol
Anyway, I was thinking for cheaper, I could get a cold air intake and a GMPP catback exhaust system. Both cheaper then stage 2 by like $300, worth it and someday if they still exist down the line, get a stage 2? Again, chevy wants $1025 for the stage 2 and told me itd take 4-5 hours, no less.
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Wow. my topic turned into a battlefield...
And yes I know I could find a mechanic to do it cheaper for me if I bought the kit online or something, but again I dont want to jeapordize my brand new cars warranty. Also, I am very NOT HANDY with anything that has to do with mechanics of an engine and even installing anything electronic. Cant do it. I cant even change my oil! lol
Anyway, I was thinking for cheaper, I could get a cold air intake and a GMPP catback exhaust system. Both cheaper then stage 2 by like $300, worth it and someday if they still exist down the line, get a stage 2? Again, chevy wants $1025 for the stage 2 and told me itd take 4-5 hours, no less.
And yes I know I could find a mechanic to do it cheaper for me if I bought the kit online or something, but again I dont want to jeapordize my brand new cars warranty. Also, I am very NOT HANDY with anything that has to do with mechanics of an engine and even installing anything electronic. Cant do it. I cant even change my oil! lol
Anyway, I was thinking for cheaper, I could get a cold air intake and a GMPP catback exhaust system. Both cheaper then stage 2 by like $300, worth it and someday if they still exist down the line, get a stage 2? Again, chevy wants $1025 for the stage 2 and told me itd take 4-5 hours, no less.
Thats what I did
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it is NOT 4-5 hours of labor... call up 2-3 other dealerships in the area and ask them how much labor is required to do it. its like 2.5 last time i checked. they are just trying to rip you off. the S2 will be 10x better upgrade compared to an exhaust and intake. an exhaust installed will probaby cost 650 or so.
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You just need to find a dealership that doesn't suck. I bought the stage 2 and exhaust from crateenginedepot and had a local dealership install them both. They charged $300 to install the exhaust and stage 2! Sure there were some dealerships that I called that wanted a lot more or required that I buy the parts from them, but just don't go there then. The closest dealership to my house wanted $750 for the stage 2 and like $600 to put it on. When the guy told me that I almost started laughing. Shop around and you can find a good deal. My total for the S2 and exhaust with tip was $1300 shipped to me and installed by the dealer to keep my warranty.
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