I'm kinda caught in between purchasing headers. The Jbp headers sound incredible, but the dc sport ceramic look nicer. Anyone have any thoughts or exp with these headers?

 

f that. badmab ftw!!

if youre gonna spend that much, get a longtube

 

badmap header. 160$ shipping included. I got 11hp and 11tq out of my header.
F - JBP they completely suck and you loose power with that header

 

pacesetter

 

with the cheap price of badmab right now, i would say that over pacesetter any day. i hear the pacesetter tends to leak with the 2 bolt flange.

but seriously, jbp has a pretty bad reputation here. i have only heard one member on here talk good about the header and he was a form over function kind of guy. too bad you cant see the header without looking behind the engine

 

u mean form over function?

 

I just ordered a BadMab for $160 shipped.

 

yes, my mistake lol

 

no prob...i was just like whaaaa?? hahaha

 

where are you getting the bad mab header for 160? it says 189 on there site

 

badnewsracing.net

 

the early JBP vortex (noodle) headers were good. they went downhill during the Group Buy. i had the first one ever sold to the public. it was the **** and sounded fantastic. if youre getting a JBP header find one used. make sure you get plenty of pics. the ones that hurt you have really choppy bends in the tubes. and where the tubes come together were all fubar'd if its got smooth bends you're golden. i dont reccomend using the JBP header if you plan on making any kind of real power because they only habe 1 5/8" primaries. i almost wish i wouldnt have gotten rid of mine when i had it on the cobalt. i would run it on my daily driven IRL. if yur gonna drop some coin on a header get the ZZP midlength combo or ZZP Long tube.

 

awesome, thx!

 

what kind of after market down pipe would u use on the bad mab header?

 

make yur own...

 

i was thinking about getting this bad mab header with a zzp offraod 3" down pipe that reduces into a 2.5" flange...... so that i can get a corsa catback to bolt on to the zzp dp... do u think that would work? lol

 

Jbp was awsome I sold mine cause my cosuin gve me his vibrant setup. If u go shorty header go jbp (period) if u go midlength go zzp or vibrant. And if u go longtube go zzp or ottp. Don't mix and match

 

badmab definitely hooks up to the stock downpipe and zzps downpipe.

for pacesetter you have to have a custom dp made.

 

so do u think that would be a stupid setup? badmab header, zzp 3" dp with a 2.5" flange to bolt onto a corsa touring catback?

 

You lose power with the jbp

Badmab is one of the best for the price, or you could save up for longtube header

 

not at all. ive heard that even with a catless dp into the corsa touring exhast is not raspy. but thats hearsay of course. hopefully someone with an actual account will chime in. i think its pretty unanimous that badmab shorty and zzps dp is the best bang for the buck on non lnfs

 

If you go Shorty go badmab. There's more than enough proof here badmab would own a jbp header on this forum.
refer to deathscythe header compare thread for jbp results...

 

only reason a pacesetter would leak is if it's installed wrong.

not really custom just need to modify the top flange, chop off, reweld. any competent shop will do it.

 

I personally can't believe that anyone still considers buying anything from JBP. How short some peoples memories are and how the saying "there's a fool born every minute" is so true. If you waste any money buying from JBP you will regret it. Trust me, I know more than anyone. And if it wasn't for my project car eating all of my cash, I would buy a new header and sell the JBP one that is on my DD. Sure it sounds cool but I would rather have the power.

 

Its what I did, only I'm running the GMPP cat-back. I run decent times and make good power for my mods. It might make a couple more HP if I went with a full 2.5" cat-back, but as long as she's running as good as she is and keeps sounding sexy, I'm going to stick with what I got. In other words, the badmab, catted ZZP 3" into 2.5", and cat-back of your choice is an excellent set-up.