technically, which are better... jbp is cheaper although not yet available, however gm has been out for a while.

 

Kind of hard to get much better than the GM stuff. I'd just go with the GM cams. I bet a nice set of cams would really wake these cars up.

 

Yes i totally agree and i dont know if this is true or just a rumor but i heard that GM parts fall under our warranty.

 

if there's a warranty concern, then i'll definately go with the GM gears... but if jbp is a better piece. i'd go with that.

 

Are you guys talking cams or cam gears (title says gears, but sounds like some of you are talking cams)? If cams, whats the duration?

 

ok, ive got a hole burning in my pocket and im biting the bullet and getting the 2.0L cams and gears from jbp. 2 week wait time!

i also am going to do the air box mod and see what I can get out of it first by dynoing the car and then see what the cams and gears will do optimumly (sp?)... wish me luck.

 

Cams were one of the best mods I have done to the Evo. It really opened up the top end of the car.

I would imagine it would do the same for you guys. What is the duration you are looking at getting?

 

Whats the easiest way to find these part #'s? Are they just on the GM site where they sell the Crate engines?

 

they are on the jbodyperformance.com website under cobalt. i dont think GM has cams out yet for the 2.0L.

 

thanks

 

Aren't the comp cam cams cheaper? I read somewhere on here they were around $480.

 

I have cams and gears. The GM gears arern't that great for tuning as the etchings are very vague and not laser etched like typical AEM gears. I'd stay away from cams for Ecotecs, I had JBP cams in my Ecotec and nothing but problems and no gains.
The vacumm went in the toilet, it idled like **** and I had codes for the longest time. I went back to stockers. I dunno if its in my siggy, I 'm a newb, I have a Ecotec Grand Am with the RSM SC.

I'm looking at getting a Saturn IRL or Cobalt SS SC in the next 6 months or so.

 

everyone complains about cams for the ecotec, no matter which company. i've heard the crane cams only put out like 3hp!! i already put my money down, so I hope jbp's new grind works.

what about the jbp gears? any better than GM?...

 

They are the GM gears, at least when I bought mine from JBP. Good luck witrh the cams.

 

Is there people upgrading cams without getting the head ported ?

 

JBP uses the GM Cam Gears...

 

why would you have to port the head?

 

Try again.


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I was just 0wn3d

Sorry I haven't been on their site in forever but I remember for the L61s they were using the GM Cam Gears.

I guess thats what I get for assuming...****.

 

For the same reason yours is ported ! LOL

 

i had mine ported cause i dumped the valvetrain,so instead of staying stock, I had a performance valvetrain and head job done.You dont have to do the head job, My valvetrain and head with labour came out to I think 2200.00

 

Did you notice a big difference with porting the head and the valvetrain?

 

The only thing you get out of the valvetrain is the ability to run a bigger shot and a little added protection if you run lean.As for the head,it really improved the flow,allowed the car to open up a little accomadating the cams+ giving more torque and hp

 

So what kind of hp gains can you expect from a set of performace set of cams i was thinking that maybe with stage 2 and cams i can reach a good amount of hp so what does everyone think just curious

 

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