Let the debating begin HAHN vs ZZP
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Let the debating begin HAHN vs ZZP
Ok, lets try this again. I want to know from everybody out there who they prefer in terms of overall performance, reliability and overall customer satisfaction(such as tech support, sales support, ect...). I am just getting really sick and tired of having Zooomer from ZZP PM'ing me all the time trash talking other companies and myself. As you can see from this copy/paste about Zooomer he is slamming Hahn once again and he honestly thinks that I am upset for going with the Hahn stage V turbo kit. Now really, think about this for a second. If I was disapointed and wanted to truthfully go with ZZP's setup I would personally think I would have to be clinically mentally challenged but thats just my opinion which I hope people can respect. I really dont want to bash any company for no good reason, I just want this crap to stop and if I dont say anything about it then it wont(Ive tried this method and his insulting/rude/disrespectful PM's continue) He truly believes that with me posting what he PM's me helps ZZP's business then so be it. I just want to know what EVERYBODY with knowledge or owns either Hahns turbo sytems or any parts for that matter thinks vs those of ZZP's. This way the truth can be laid out once and for all and let Zooomer and the boys at Hahn see it themselves. Im not just trying to bash one company but please understand that I am just sick of this crap and I nor anybody deserves to have to put up with this crap. Round 1 - Get it On!!!!!!
1. This debate started because I said that the fastest cars would be running ZZP and you disagreed. Now you want to talk about experience, reliability, forum eiquette, posting rules etc. You do see what you're doing right? YOu lost and you can't man up to the fact that you were 100% wrong so you're just bitching about something else and posting trying to make me look bad. It's really transparent. Why not just admit you were wrong? I would if you had schooled me as bad as we just did you and hahn.
2. Obviously you have thin skin. YOu're so mad that I was right and you were wrong that you had to make a public post. What's hilarious is that when you do that, ZZP sales go up. You see the ass in there bitching about his ZZP HE not shipping? It was shipped. He's just jumping on the bandwagon same as you and everyone else. But guess what? The parts are still selling. People are posting they would never buy while they are buying parts. In the end, they want the best parts for the lowest cost and only ZZP delivers.
Personally I think you're just mad because had you gone ZZP instead of hahn, you wouldn't be having problems and you're car would be WAY faster for a ton less money. So really when you're mad at me, I know it's just you being mad at yourself.
3. Go to hahn's site on the 2.4 and read this "After 2 years of extensive engineering and testing, Hahn RaceCraft has achieved a turbo system with a fuel management system that works exceptionally well. Coupled with an ECM re-flash (included) and a TCM re-flash (for A/T vehicle) is Hahn RaceCraft’s exclusive field-adjustable, boost-proportional fueling system. Hahn has conquered the difficult 2.4L ECOTEC tuning with the development of Hahn RaceCraft’s BoostFueler™. Conventional tuning procedures do not work well on the 2.4L ECOTEC motor. The Hahn RaceCraft BoostFueler™ makes performance tuning an easy reality."
Do you get it? They can't even figure out how to change injector size? Meanwhile we have fuel rewires, BRFP, different injectors, etc. We're light years from them in technology
4. Company size
http://alexa.com/siteinfo/turbosystem.com
http://alexa.com/siteinfo/zzperformance.com
We are much larger, we are growing while they are shrinking. We own multiple sites, they own one.
Time to accept reality dude.
Zooomer - ZZP
1. This debate started because I said that the fastest cars would be running ZZP and you disagreed. Now you want to talk about experience, reliability, forum eiquette, posting rules etc. You do see what you're doing right? YOu lost and you can't man up to the fact that you were 100% wrong so you're just bitching about something else and posting trying to make me look bad. It's really transparent. Why not just admit you were wrong? I would if you had schooled me as bad as we just did you and hahn.
2. Obviously you have thin skin. YOu're so mad that I was right and you were wrong that you had to make a public post. What's hilarious is that when you do that, ZZP sales go up. You see the ass in there bitching about his ZZP HE not shipping? It was shipped. He's just jumping on the bandwagon same as you and everyone else. But guess what? The parts are still selling. People are posting they would never buy while they are buying parts. In the end, they want the best parts for the lowest cost and only ZZP delivers.
Personally I think you're just mad because had you gone ZZP instead of hahn, you wouldn't be having problems and you're car would be WAY faster for a ton less money. So really when you're mad at me, I know it's just you being mad at yourself.
3. Go to hahn's site on the 2.4 and read this "After 2 years of extensive engineering and testing, Hahn RaceCraft has achieved a turbo system with a fuel management system that works exceptionally well. Coupled with an ECM re-flash (included) and a TCM re-flash (for A/T vehicle) is Hahn RaceCraft’s exclusive field-adjustable, boost-proportional fueling system. Hahn has conquered the difficult 2.4L ECOTEC tuning with the development of Hahn RaceCraft’s BoostFueler™. Conventional tuning procedures do not work well on the 2.4L ECOTEC motor. The Hahn RaceCraft BoostFueler™ makes performance tuning an easy reality."
Do you get it? They can't even figure out how to change injector size? Meanwhile we have fuel rewires, BRFP, different injectors, etc. We're light years from them in technology
4. Company size
http://alexa.com/siteinfo/turbosystem.com
http://alexa.com/siteinfo/zzperformance.com
We are much larger, we are growing while they are shrinking. We own multiple sites, they own one.
Time to accept reality dude.
Zooomer - ZZP
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