From the searches i have found...

if i were to buy this

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P1539C196.aspx

.. just to get the relfash and Injectors because i already have a 3" Modular Pulley on there from ZZP..Intake ...Exhaust...

i would have to pay 425 for the injectors n flash..and then pay my dealer some more to flash it for me? or is that like areciept kinda thing u just take to ur dealer and say hey flash this.. and they do it with no extra charge? if thats the case ill just pay 220 for the 60lb injectors and get a custom tune instead.. i almost bought it right now but i had to do a lil research first.. some one let me know please.. im tired of just running the 3 inch with the stock Redline..

 

i think the dealer will charger like an hours worth of labor to do the reflash. Someone correct me if im wrong. And yes Gm stage kits are a waste of money.

 

not if you value your warenty /\

 

warrenty or not, GM will still void it if it was abused. so it dosent matter if you have intense stage 2, custom stage 2 or GM. it will be voided if the dealer chooses to no matter what.

 

true it can be...but you have a better chance getting things fixed if you have all gm parts..would you agree with that?

 

Thats correct!

 

if your worried about a warranty, you really shouldnt be moding a car in the first place. . .

 

You have to pay the dealer for labor to do the flash. I just bought the stage 1 off of ebay for $200 and its comes with an authentication code that can only be used for one VIN number. They have to call some 1-800 number to get the flash with that authentication code. But you will still have to pay probably 1 hour for labor for them to do the flash.

 

I dont care about the warranty.. so should i just buy the Injectors? and buy a tune from intense stage 2

 

The Intense tune is actually not that great, what injectors are you buying 60's or 42's? If your getting 42's might as well just buy a stage 1 kit and your own Modular pulley system. If your getting 60's, either find someone with HP Tuners in your area by looking at the HP tuners wiki under tuning, I just got a set of 60's and a 2.7 ZZP pulley, an injector harness and a stage 2 belt plus got tuned for less then the total cost of just the stage 2 kit and it runs great, plus if you get the GM stage kit you still have to pay a dealer to flash your ride.

 

I already have a modular pulley system.. im trying to order something online with my credit card and not have to worry about taking it anywhere..

so pretty much no matter what tune i buy its gotta beflased by a shop?

 

Either gotta be flashed by the dealer (only if you buy the stage 1) or someone with HP tuners who knows what they're doing, either a shop or just an individual.

 

Yeah i just talked to a local Shop that specializes in LSJs
so anywhere i can buy the Injectors? im doing the 60s + a Tune so i dont have to upgrade twice..

Like i Need the 60 Injectors + Wiring Harness + Tune

So to eliminate two of three where can i order it as a package?

I saw it on the ZZP site the Ecotec Harness...but do i need to Buy the Harness and the Injector connectors plus the Siemens 60? because the harness info says 42 lbs and 65lbs injectors... the siemens is a 60

someone show me the way!lol

and on top of that would i need the AEM Wideband for it? or can they HP tune without it?

 

NO. just get the injectors and the pulley you want. (i suggest 2.8 or 2.9) then get it dyno tuned. it may end up costing $100 more to do it this way. BUT, it will totally be worth it, you will be making more power than S2 and the tune will be much SAFER!
the GM and other tunes are not custom for your vehicle. they are designed to compensate for worst case scenario's (like canadian winter, and summer in the desert)

if you take it to a dyno shop, they can tune without it

i ordered all my stuff from ZZP. just call them and the people are very helpful. probably the person on the phone with you has done the install themselves once or twice. I would bet that the injector harness listed is the one u need, but i'm not sure. It works with my Lucas #42's, but i think the siemens #60's also use a BOSCH style connector. IMO they should work. but i would call just to be sure.

what are your dyno #'s with the 2.7 and #60's?
i think i'm gonna stick with my #42's and just go down to 2.8" (running 2.9 now) with a 50 shot and DR's i think i can pull a 12 second pass on the #42's

 

well the tune is going to cost 450 dollars... so should i get a smaller pulley than the 3" i have on their right now ? might as well so i dont have to pay for tuning twice?

the safest i could go without Cooling mods would be the 2.7 right?

then i have to get a smaller belt too... blasphemy..modding is not cheap..