50 units is a lot. Did they give you a price on how much per unit?

 

interested in a per unit price as well

 

I am as well. This would make such a better project than twin charging my 2.2.

 

Right now, looking at a per unit price of $1550 each for 50 units. I'm working on seeing what pricing on the drive snouts / bypass will be.

I can say, since I have an Ion Redline here (LSJ, obviously) that I will be doing a complete bolt-on kit for the LSJ crowd.

The kit will include the head unit, bypass system, a cast throttle body piece that relocates the MAP sensor to an easier location (as well as bolts on to the W100AX and keeps the throttle in the stock position), MAP sensor wiring extension, and the drive snout. I'll most likely pulley the system in the stock 12psi area (I'm thinking 15psi) so that you guys with 42.5# injectors MAY be able to run without upgrading to 60s+. I'm shooting for 25psi, myself!

 

Why move the MAP?

 

that wouldn't be a bad setup especially if someone would make a good intake manifold.

 

To ensure it's not in the way of anything is all

 

id love to purchase one of these units... im already sold on it outperforming the TVS, because twin screw blowers are better than roots blowers. no questions asked

i posted these links before.. and these are direct studies from kenne bell, so if you dont believe them then i dont know what to tell ya, but heres a few more twin screw vs roots type comparisons from kenne bell:

http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/ge...romcatalog.pdf

http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/ge...REWvsROOTS.pdf

 

Well, you'll get your chance. I'm figuring there's probably 10-15 people in the LSJ community that would honestly throw down on a kit of this sorts, so I'm going to try to see how many of the RSX guys are interested (getting a LOT of interest atm) and design a kit for the S2000 as well.

 

I disagree. I think I have spent about $4000 on all of my mods. Including a TVS, full exhaust, intake, injectors, heat exchanger, etc.... I'm not going to list it all but the point is I spent $12,000 on the car and $4000 on mods. Where can you get a car with about 300hp for $16,000? I'll take a 2006 with that kind of power any day.

 

It's possible - but I don't see 50 units being moved via the LSJ community alone Besides, nothing saying we can't get better pricing if we get more than 50 units moved! (I'd be amazed if we did that, though!)

 

...a 03/04 cobra...not to mention its RWD, has a extra gear, and its engine can take near 1000bhp in stock form...

course neither of us should compare used cars... so you should ask what a new SS/SC and $4k in mods (ie about $24,000, give or take) should compete with in the $25k price range. The answer to that is A LOT by the way

And to summarize my opinion: I would absolutely LOVE a twinscrew

 

I don't think there is a reason to move the MAP sensor personally. I would focus on getting the brake booster hose right as well as the sensor on top of the blower straight to not throw a code.

 

A traditional roots, yes. You do know the TVS1320 is in league w/ turbo's for efficiency. I do believe it beat out the twinscrew for efficiency. I'd have to dig hard to find the link. And I'm at work

 

Peak efficiency for the TVS occurs at 1.5pr (7-8psi) (~75%) - the TVS is still a Roots blower, not a compressor. You'll get around 70% efficiency @ 17.5psi with the LSJ (narrowly hits the 70% island) which is the highest Eaton rates the TVS1320 for.

Look at the compressor map - the efficiency falls off sharply as you increase to 20+ psi.

The twinscrew is very good at higher boost pressures - certainly better than any roots blower.

 

true, but a twin screw can still safely run much more psi than a roots blower without having to worry about charge air temps too much. of course the intake air temps get hotter as you pully down with a twinscrew as well, its just not as bad as on a roots blower. in other words, the whipple will have a higher ceiling to hit than the eaton

 

...you say "but" like you're contradicting the quoted post, but then support it.

but yes, he's right. twin-screws are superior in almost every way. (A roots typically has a better lower end, and is usually pretty good in the low psi range (like 2-8psi) but a twinscrew wins everywhere else)

 

i like to agree and disagree at the same time, sometimes.. gah that doesnt even make sense, oh well lol

 

All really depends

 

the whipple in the above isnt exactly evenly matched with the roots...lol

 

Which Whipple was used in that test?

 

2300AX if i'm not mistaken

 

Well, Do it! Everyone talks but very few are buying the tvs because it really doesn't fix the problem of a roots not being able to maintain efficiency at 20+psi. If you think a Twin Screw can do this, then make it happen and get it done and PROVE the theory. Other lsj's have Twin Screws and they didn't need to buy 50 units but then again, they never post on these forums. What does that say about what the car actually does with the twin screw? I'm not giving any money to a stranger on a forum to "help". We already saw how good that worked with RAW. Prove the gains and I would be happy to buy one! I still havent seen the tvs as being worth 1800.

 

...no such thing?
if you mean their 2.3l blower, thats the 140AX

 

Wow - if that's the case, the W140AX is even that much better than the Eaton. The W140AX vs 2300AX is the test they have at Steeda and Whipple

*edit* The 2300AX is Whipple's old Gen I twinscrew.

*edit2* Leviticus, that's a fair assessment. The Twinscrews people are using right now are the old Gen I design. The 1.6L Gen IIs have not, and will not be produced until 50 units are ordered.