Looking for the right header
Looking for the right header
Okay, so I've been taking a REALLY long time to find out the best header for my 05 but still aren't sure which one to get. I was looking at the weapon R 4-2-1 header from cobalt addiction but others look just as durable. I am planning on getting a custom built exhaust so I want to get the best header to work with it. As of right now I only have Stg 2 with AEM CAI so I am really trying get this full set up complete. Suggestions are really helpful. Thanks guys.
Okay, so I've been taking a REALLY long time to find out the best header for my 05 but still aren't sure which one to get. I was looking at the weapon R 4-2-1 header from cobalt addiction but others look just as durable. I am planning on getting a custom built exhaust so I want to get the best header to work with it. As of right now I only have Stg 2 with AEM CAI so I am really trying get this full set up complete. Suggestions are really helpful. Thanks guys.
Vibrant: around 14 hp & 14 ft/lbs tq and proven i believe, pretty loud, 4-2-1, pricey
ZZP midlength Header/DP: affordable, popular, more problems seem to be reported with quality but there are far more of these out there than other header combos. Bolt on and a little more raspy than others.
CA 4-1: Bolt on to stock downpipe. Not a WHOLE lot of info on these that i know of but no real complaints that I found.
GMPP Extrude Honed: Minimal gains, easier to maintain warranty if that matters to you, not worth the money if you're going for performance.
Pacesetter: Arguably one of the best to get if you're willing to make proper modifications, not a direct bolt on.
Clear Image Automotive: Customizable build. 4-1 header or TRI-Y header. Check them out here: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/supporting-vendor-deals-group-purchases-133/new-header-down-pipe-sale-114698/ . 15whp gain, 15 ft/lb of tq, dyno proven. sound clips on that site and they offer downpipes with or without hi-flow cats.
Theres some info, but gotta go.
ZZP midlength Header/DP: affordable, popular, more problems seem to be reported with quality but there are far more of these out there than other header combos. Bolt on and a little more raspy than others.
CA 4-1: Bolt on to stock downpipe. Not a WHOLE lot of info on these that i know of but no real complaints that I found.
GMPP Extrude Honed: Minimal gains, easier to maintain warranty if that matters to you, not worth the money if you're going for performance.
Pacesetter: Arguably one of the best to get if you're willing to make proper modifications, not a direct bolt on.
Clear Image Automotive: Customizable build. 4-1 header or TRI-Y header. Check them out here: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/supporting-vendor-deals-group-purchases-133/new-header-down-pipe-sale-114698/ . 15whp gain, 15 ft/lb of tq, dyno proven. sound clips on that site and they offer downpipes with or without hi-flow cats.
Theres some info, but gotta go.
I absolutely love the fit and finish of my SLP shorty... SLP originally was going to produce a shorty and a long tube but in the end only went to production with the long tube design... Stainless steel and JetHot coated they are awesome!
Vibrant: around 14 hp & 14 ft/lbs tq and proven i believe, pretty loud, 4-2-1, pricey
ZZP midlength Header/DP: affordable, popular, more problems seem to be reported with quality but there are far more of these out there than other header combos. Bolt on and a little more raspy than others.
CA 4-1: Bolt on to stock downpipe. Not a WHOLE lot of info on these that i know of but no real complaints that I found.
GMPP Extrude Honed: Minimal gains, easier to maintain warranty if that matters to you, not worth the money if you're going for performance.
Pacesetter: Arguably one of the best to get if you're willing to make proper modifications, not a direct bolt on.
Clear Image Automotive: Customizable build. 4-1 header or TRI-Y header. Check them out here: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=114698 . 15whp gain, 15 ft/lb of tq, dyno proven. sound clips on that site and they offer downpipes with or without hi-flow cats.
Theres some info, but gotta go.
ZZP midlength Header/DP: affordable, popular, more problems seem to be reported with quality but there are far more of these out there than other header combos. Bolt on and a little more raspy than others.
CA 4-1: Bolt on to stock downpipe. Not a WHOLE lot of info on these that i know of but no real complaints that I found.
GMPP Extrude Honed: Minimal gains, easier to maintain warranty if that matters to you, not worth the money if you're going for performance.
Pacesetter: Arguably one of the best to get if you're willing to make proper modifications, not a direct bolt on.
Clear Image Automotive: Customizable build. 4-1 header or TRI-Y header. Check them out here: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=114698 . 15whp gain, 15 ft/lb of tq, dyno proven. sound clips on that site and they offer downpipes with or without hi-flow cats.
Theres some info, but gotta go.
i want soundclip now..cuz u have my exhaust setup except for the header..
ive had the pacesetters armor coated header for bout 6 months and luv it
Pacesetter: Arguably one of the best to get if you're willing to make proper modifications, not a direct bolt on
Pacesetter: Arguably one of the best to get if you're willing to make proper modifications, not a direct bolt on
The vibrant isn't loud at all, but you can definitely hear the exhaust flow when you lay down on it from the cockpit; it actually sounds beautiful sort of a dampened supercharger whine but mellower (no rasp). It's probably due to the stainless steel rather than flow characteristics...I say go with a stainless header/dp.
i actually enjoy my pacesetter, for what its worth....it looks like ass, but i very rarely showcase my engine anyway
performance gains, and a slight change in the note of exhaust...id give it an 8/10
one thing to be weary... when installing MAKE SURE that the ball and socket joint are absolutely straight with one-another, or you will more than likely get a leak. i had a leak until i had the whole exhaust repositioned to accomodate the header...now its perfect
performance gains, and a slight change in the note of exhaust...id give it an 8/10
one thing to be weary... when installing MAKE SURE that the ball and socket joint are absolutely straight with one-another, or you will more than likely get a leak. i had a leak until i had the whole exhaust repositioned to accomodate the header...now its perfect
I had my friend record a short video on his cell from inside the car when we ran out for lunch... I snapped a quick 1st-2nd-3rd run up to about 80mph. I'll see what I can do when I get home with a better camera outside the car...
http://home.comcast.net/~brn169/07-2...0722081216.3g2
http://home.comcast.net/~brn169/07-2...0722081216.3g2
I've looked at all of those headers so far but I haven't actually seen dyno tested yet and am willing to pay whatever for the best header to slap on for the track. I'm planning on buying whatever header with an catless downpipe and custom built exhaust specifically for the track. That's why I wanted to purchase the Weapon R header bc of the straight down pipe. If that makes a difference of what I just said is it worth getting it or should I go for something else.
You're talking about the Weapon R "RACE" header?
I'm looking also to this one as it has a different (more normal for a 4 cil. engine) primary pairing (1+4 & 2+3) than the odd OEM layout. And possibly I can make this one fit onto my RWD layout...
Someone here tested the prototype on the dyno, but could not find the graphs anymore in the thread.
I'm looking also to this one as it has a different (more normal for a 4 cil. engine) primary pairing (1+4 & 2+3) than the odd OEM layout. And possibly I can make this one fit onto my RWD layout...

Someone here tested the prototype on the dyno, but could not find the graphs anymore in the thread.
I had my friend record a short video on his cell from inside the car when we ran out for lunch... I snapped a quick 1st-2nd-3rd run up to about 80mph. I'll see what I can do when I get home with a better camera outside the car...
http://home.comcast.net/~brn169/07-2...0722081216.3g2
http://home.comcast.net/~brn169/07-2...0722081216.3g2
well thats what I was talking about. I don't care about what it sounds like really because its for the track pretty much. I mean what's actually better a 4-1 or a 4-2-1? This is all new for me to comprehend
4-1 for most gains and what it sounds like you're wanting. It's better for top end and is going to give the most gains normally, the 4-2-1 is best for mid range but falls off top end in comparison to 4-1 headers because of flow restriction. More usable power for where you normally drive, below ~5500rpm, but the 4-2-1 isn't going to give as much gains as the 4-1.
Last edited by Littlegoose; Jul 23, 2008 at 02:48 PM.


