Eddie

make an LSD standard on the SS s/c, be one step ahead of the game give it atleast wrx power, ion redline ran 14.7 1/4 road and track tested, lets hope the ss s/c will be low 14 and i mean low like 14.0

RedCavyRS99

wrong forum but sounds good lol

JonyyB

moving...

Eddie

lol my bad i just seen the tips part and i thought something else, he he my bad. just drove in a srt-4 today pretty impressive like how u can take off normal then half way threw first just step on it and spins the tires.

JonyyB

Sweet. I need to go "test drive" one of those suckers lol

Eddie

gm needs to let car and driver or some magazine test drive the ss s/c allready i wanna know 1/4 mile numbers lol, i hope it does 14.5 or lower i'm really hoping. it would be sweet i'd definatly get one if it does 14.3 figure 12 psi srt is 14 or 17 something like that so room for upgrade to be able to handle the srt-4.

RedCavyRS99

The SS is gonna be a fun car one way or another

zstyle

Road and Track ran a 14.7 with it??? Is that in the newest issue or what? SCC could only get 15.3 out of it, mainly because they only ran a 7.1 to 60. I hope that the 14.7 is true, thats more of what I was looking forward to out of the S/C than the 15.3.

SilverCSS

With LSD, and 205hp...I think we'll see around 14.7. Without..I'd still say 14.9 or a bit less. It really depends on the driver, but the better the grip, the faster through the 1/4 mile, obviously.

zstyle

Car and Driver ran a 14.7 with the Redline this month, and a 0-60 of 6.1. Pretty good, seeing as these numbers were without the LSD. I'd imagine an LSD would trim at least a couple of tenths off those times, is that close?

SilverCSS

With a good driver (good launch assisted by the LSD), yeah. I'd say a 14.5 is possible. Plus, the Cobalt has an additional 5hp. Someone should check up on the dimensions/weight/etc. of the Redline. I would, but I need to go eat. If no one has by the time I wake up tomorrow, I'll get on it. Weight plays a significant role, as we know.

Arrowslinger

O4 Redline

http://www.carslots.com/automotive-article-1665.html

Base Price $ 20,385
Price As Tested $ 21,320
Engine Type supercharged and intercooled
dual overhead cam inline 4-cylinder
Engine Size 2.0 liters / 122 cu. in.
Horsepower 205 @ 5600 rpm
Torque (lb-ft) 200 @ 4400 rpm
Transmission 5-speed manual
Wheelbase / Length 103.2 in. / 185 in.
Curb Weight 2590 lbs.
Pounds Per Horsepower 13.0
Fuel Capacity 13.2 gal.
Fuel Requirement 91 octane unleaded premium gasoline
Tires P215/45 ZR17 Dunlop SP Sport 9000
Brakes, front/rear vented disc / solid disc, antilock standard
Suspension, front/rear independent MacPherson strut /
semi-independent torsion beam axle
Drivetrain front engine, front-wheel drive

PERFORMANCE
EPA Fuel Economy - miles per gallon
city / highway / observed 23 / 29 / 25
0 to 60 mph est. 7 sec

zstyle

2590 lbs. is wayyyy too light for that car. All other figures I've seen were in the 2900lb area.

Arrowslinger

You are right:

http://media.gmcanada.com/division/c...ion_index.html

Curb weight (lb / kg): 2930 / 1329

Co-Bolting

How heavy is the cobalt?

RedCavyRS99

there are so many different weight numbers being thrown around who really knows what it will weigh

Co-Bolting

does anyone have an idea if it will be heavier then the RL or as heavy as the Rallyart (2900) :?:

RedCavyRS99

prolly more then the RL since its not going to have plastic panels

Co-Bolting

^^^ Amen for that. Its like the new neon. Fun car to drive, but the inside sucks. Its so plan and like the old neons. I think they should have spiced the inside up a bit.

zstyle

Yeah I sat in a Redline the other day (didn't drive, stupid guys were too busy) and the interior kinda sucks. The seats are nice, but the center stack and center guages are crappy. The shifter isn't really short... the throws on my 94 Cav arent much longer. The engine looks great though, looks as if it has close to a CAI from the factory.

avro206

Lighter then redline. Doesn't have to quad coupe configuration.

zstyle

It's not a space-frame or plastic panelled though... although I don't know if those two things make a big difference. The Cobalt's interior is much nice though, and may be heavier for that. You'd think the two should be fairly close though.

SS32687

i bet u guys can beat 14.0 sec IF u put like small horsepower instead of upgrade supercharger or turbo kits 8)

saturnd00d

Apparantly the SS will weigh slightly more than the redline, by about 50-90 lbs. but like someone else mentioned, so many weight number are being thrown around to really tell. With an LSD, the car should be able to hit 14.3-14.5 no problem. AEM is currently either in the design or testing stage for a CAI for the ION redline, so that is good news for the SS peeps as well. News is floating aorund that DC sports (bought out by AEM) is currently designing a header for the redline as well which should work for the SS no problem. Once the SS comes out and the market for the delta cars expands, parts should be coming out like crazy. Right now because it's only the ION and the redline, no parts manufacturers are coming out with stuff because of it being such a small market. A little more time, and we'll be able to hang with SRT-4's no problem.

Eddie

have u seen what the car is trapping in the 1/4 mile? 97,98 mph, and only a 14.7, those speeds are good for a low 14 lowr than 14.5, that means traction is an issue, or gearing might suck, but i think traction. if an lsd was installed to handle the traction issues that 97-98 mph, should equal 14.5 or better. please gm install a freakin quaife lsd in the cobalt ss before release. be smart dont be a retard.