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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 08:52 PM
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I know your going to say type it into the search but i need a detailed answer. im 18 and a senior in high school, i work 30 hours a week and make the payments on my balt. Im not going to be able to just drop a grand on stage 3 or a bunch of **** at once like alot of people can do. basically i want to pick apart the stage kits little by little. I already have the zzp 3 inch intake. i want to be able to run atleast a 2.8 pulley. i want to be around 260-280 hp when its all said and done. im not sure what i should get next or buy first because everything is made to support different things. if someone could help that would be awesome! thanks
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 09:04 PM
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Stage 2 belt, bigger injectors and harness, tune, spark plugs, dual pass, heat exchanger
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 09:08 PM
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a dual pass is not needed a extra h.e. out front is not needed just move the stocker in front of your ac condenser and your not going to make that kind of power on a 2.8 and pump gas you will have to put it on e and go smaller on the pulley and if its your only car then keep it sane sty 2.8 or 2.9 and be happy and you do need to search and educate yourself so you can make a better informed decision on your own
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 09:28 PM
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a dual pass is not needed a extra h.e. out front is not needed just move the stocker in front of your ac condenser and your not going to make that kind of power on a 2.8 and pump gas you will have to put it on e and go smaller on the pulley and if its your only car then keep it sane sty 2.8 or 2.9 and be happy and you do need to search and educate yourself so you can make a better informed decision on your own
could i run a 2.8 pulley right now without a tune or exhaust?
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 09:32 PM
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You will need a tune. trifecta is a good place to use.
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 10:48 PM
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a dual pass is not needed a extra h.e. out front is not needed just move the stocker in front of your ac condenser and your not going to make that kind of power on a 2.8 and pump gas you will have to put it on e and go smaller on the pulley and if its your only car then keep it sane sty 2.8 or 2.9 and be happy and you do need to search and educate yourself so you can make a better informed decision on your own
True ,,
And no once u change injectors or go smaller pulley you need a tune

^^bigger injectors

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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 11:18 PM
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Dont use trifecta. Since your in MI go to zzp and have them tune you. Get a set of 80lb injectors, 2.8 pulley and tune for e85. I have a stage 2 belt if you want to PM me. I also can make you a dual pass if you wish
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 11:25 PM
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I would also recommend getting it tuned at a shop, not just a canned. But for those kind of numbers you will need E85 (as mentioned above) or meth injection, which is what I have to do, to compensate for our shitty 91.
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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save up graduation money and get hptuners.
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 11:30 PM
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280 wheel takes a lot more than a 'stage 3' upgrade.

to make that kinda power you need a header catback, run e85 through 80# injectors, run a 2.8 or 2.7, have lots of cooling mods, intake, semi agressive tune...

what i would do man is put on parts for now that don't require a tune, like do all the cooling stuff intake and exhaust for now and then save up for the injectors, pulley and tune do that all at once
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 11:31 PM
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Of course before you stage the balt (injectors, pulley down, tune, and smaller belt), you should eliminate some exhaust restrictions. I was also 18 when I had first bought my balt, the first things I did were the airbox mod, catback, and headers/dp. For the DP I went 2.5 with a high flow cat, coupled with ZZP's midlength header. I was in the same situation as you haha.
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Originally Posted by riceburner
280 wheel takes a lot more than a 'stage 3' upgrade.

to make that kinda power you need a header catback, run e85 through 80# injectors, run a 2.8 or 2.7, have lots of cooling mods, intake, semi agressive tune...

what i would do man is put on parts for now that don't require a tune, like do all the cooling stuff intake and exhaust for now and then save up for the injectors, pulley and tune do that all at once
you do not need a bunch of cooling mods

if you all want to go fast get out of the staged mentality
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mahfouzman
Of course before you stage the balt (injectors, pulley down, tune, and smaller belt), you should eliminate some exhaust restrictions. I was also 18 when I had first bought my balt, the first things I did were the airbox mod, catback, and headers/dp. For the DP I went 2.5 with a high flow cat, coupled with ZZP's midlength header. I was in the same situation as you haha.
what were your power gains with the mid length? is it better to go with the shorty header or the mid length?
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by riceburner
280 wheel takes a lot more than a 'stage 3' upgrade.

to make that kinda power you need a header catback, run e85 through 80# injectors, run a 2.8 or 2.7, have lots of cooling mods, intake, semi agressive tune...

what i would do man is put on parts for now that don't require a tune, like do all the cooling stuff intake and exhaust for now and then save up for the injectors, pulley and tune do that all at once
This, do the cooling mods and exhaust, save up some money and call ZZP. get your injects, pulley and have them tune it in the same day.
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 08:41 PM
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Car payments,18 and in HS. Spend the money on paying that thing off. Search used parts and have the coin saved for a dyno tune. Do it all at once. Throwing a pulley on without fuel, tune and cooling mods will get you a ticket on that yellow bus.
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LaserBlueSSSC
what were your power gains with the mid length? is it better to go with the shorty header or the mid length?
Well with a 3.1" pulley, 60lb injectors, airbox mod, ZZP midlength headers/2.5 high flow catted dp, and catback I was putting down about 255whp (tuned at ZZP). At one point I upgraded to a 3" catted downpipe and the BadMab shorty header, didn't notice too much of a difference honestly. The header and dp do make a difference though, how much I honestly can't tell you.
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This, do the cooling mods and exhaust, save up some money and call ZZP. get your injects, pulley and have them tune it in the same day.
Originally Posted by Stumpalump
Car payments,18 and in HS. Spend the money on paying that thing off. Search used parts and have the coin saved for a dyno tune. Do it all at once. Throwing a pulley on without fuel, tune and cooling mods will get you a ticket on that yellow bus.
you do not need cooling mods wake up
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you do not need cooling mods wake up
Keeps the nubs from breaking their cars hotlapping the **** out of them
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
you do not need cooling mods wake up
Sure you do...if you want repeatable results on a hot day.
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
Keeps the nubs from breaking their cars hotlapping the **** out of them
nope

Originally Posted by Pinky Demon
Sure you do...if you want repeatable results on a hot day.
nope

a dual pass dose not do **** to control how hot iat2 gets or how fast it gets hot the only thing a dual pass is good for is recovery nothing more if you want better temp control add capacity and an option b wont do that it its good for bleeding the system
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 11:19 PM
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Mr. B i hope you realize youve just agreed with us.
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 08:55 AM
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no I have not agreed with you cooling mods don't do **** to control how high your temps get
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
you do not need cooling mods wake up
You don't need anything but gas
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You don't need anything but gas
And cooling mods, dont forget cooling mods :p
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