I got on it and burned rubber alot off the line then when I shifted into 2nd and got on it the car just revved and got no power, I wasn't riding the clutch either it was fully disengaged and just sat there...

 

On street or track?

How many miles on car?

First manual car or experienced?

Need some info....

 

It's possible that the flywheel/flexplate are glazed and when really putting the pedal down the two surfaces just allow the revving with no go.
Did you smell a burning smell?
Does your car still drive at normal speeds?

 

1700 miles, street, drives normal, yes burn smell....BIG TIME....

second manual, last car was an 03 cobra

 

tons of us have this problem... If you don't shift under 3k it will happen a lot less, also i have heard if you bleed the slave cylinder it helps. But if you want the ult fix get a new clutch and PP.. Also try not getting to the rev limiter b4 you shift into 2nd. the over tq puts too much load on the PP and clutch. shift sooner into 2nd...

 

So was that burning smell my actual clutch burning or something else?

 

Like I read on another post,Spinning in first (we are talking a major burn out ) and going into second creates this clutch slipping problem .
Your wheels are spinning at a high rate of speed and the inerta from the fly wheel going into second is way high ,and there is no way the cluch can grab .
Try not having the wheels spinning when slamming it into second ,see if that makes any difference.
Just relating what I read on another post a while back.

 

Strange. What rpms were you shifing into, btw? And does it drive normally when not shifting like that? Also, you did take your foot off the gas pedal when shifting, right?

 

yes it would have been burning clutch you smelled.
hopefully you didnt sit there burning it to long and its only a little glazed....and not smoked right off.

If you drive it right and shift above 3k, no slipping or anything, it should recover.


this instance was caused by relative speed.
you spun your tires hard in first, and your speedo and RPMs tell you its time to shift to second, but your cars barely doin 10mph, cuz you didnt really get traction.
so now your trying to launch hard into second gear, at redline, and now your clutch has to try and grab and take your engine back down to about 2krpms.

thats what caused it.
think of it like this....its like trying to launch from a stop in second gear at 4kRPMs
its REALLY hard to get the clutch to grab, cuz your car isnt moving at the right speed.

the best way to avoid it is ALWAYS keep in your head....that before you shift into 2nd, make sure you have traction at the top of first.
otherwise your clutch is gonna have a very hard time.

 

exactly, I did this once when I first got the car... let the clutch cool down and it should be fine next time you drive her..

don't do that again and you should be problem free

 

Seeing as how he used to drive an 03 Cobra, I'm guessing he can tell the difference between wheelspin and traction. Regardless, I can get my car at redline with wheelspin in about 2 or 3 seconds. No one would think it's time to shift at that point, well hopefully they wouldn't. You are amazing with being to tell exactly what is happening on people's cars, and you are in another country at that.

IMO, something's not right. But I'm not trying to assume things here.

 

ohhhhh kay then.

so since im in another country i should just shut my mouth then.

first you tell me when i go into a dealership i have to act like a retard and not have ANY of my own ideas.....

Now im not allowed to help a member with clutch slipping, when we have seen this issue hmmmmm oh a couple hundred times....and 9 times out of 10, 2nd gear slips because they dont have traction at the top of first, meaning the cars relative velocity is to low for the clutch to grab 2nd at high rpm. mr 87 posts.

If you dont like me fine. but dont follow me around with inane comments based on where I live, that are helping no one.

thank you.

 

Yeah, I'm following you. Sure.

Post count means nothing.

I never said anything about how to act in a dealership. I asked for clarification from someone else. Not you at all.

You need more information before you can diagnose something. You are a ******* retard if you think otherwise. Now if this guy was doing NUMEROUS back to back runs at the track and heated his clutch up then I see it 100%. On a cold clutch there is no way it should happen. ZERO. I can show you pics of mu clutch at 60K. I still have another 20k left on it but it couldn't handle the TQ anymore. But I'm FAR from stock. You chastized me for 'assuming' something. Now you are doing the same.

 

Post count means nothing.
I agree. and so does "where I live"

get my point?

second, the clutches in these cars are known to be finiky, and its always the 1/2 shift that causes issues. and its almost always because of a lack of traction in first.

which is exactly what he described.

Instead of hating on people who are trying to help....why not say something constructive.

 

Yea this car is alot different than my last one. My cobra used to take whatever I threw at it, guess I need to realize its a 4cyl... Is there any good heavy duty clutches and flywheels i might be able to find???

Im still new to cobalt, I've always had f-150s and mustangs, but the gas was killin me.

 

Ok ive been saying it for months now.
that i wanted to do a video to help people understand what i blather on about with the relative velocity.

well i went and made one.

gimme 5 to upload.
hopefully it will help people understand how driver input can really help your clutch out.

 

How are you driving it? That's what I'm not understanding here. I'm in the process of replacing my clutch now. Mine held for two years and 60k with no problems. Are you dumping the clutch after revving at 6k? You need to explain what you were doing at the time when it happened better. Don't trust people who tell you that they've seen X before so this is what's wrong. It could be more than one thing. At that mileage, I don't think it's normal at all.

You are telling this guy what he smelled, what happened, and what he did wrong with almost NO information about it at all. He could have a serious problem but you are telling him it's normal. You have no idea what is wrong, you weren't there, you don't know him personally, EVERYONE NEEDS MORE INFO BEFORE MAKING DECISIONS. That's the whole point from this thread and the other.

 

well....then we might as well all give up trying to assist people.
because none of us really know anything about anyones problem
so why bother trying to help.

just tell everyone "take it to the dealer"

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v3...Clutchslip.flv
heres a howto im workin on ss07, could be something similar to what happened with your clutch maybe?

hopefully it helps

 

Jesus you make things difficult. Is that your goal?

I asked for more info, you told him what was wrong. How do you know?

 

Wow very nice video an0malous, I am very impressed, Couldnt have explainded clutch slip any better, Repped!!!

 

yea that video was really good.. thats exactly wut happens when it slips. i did that once wen i first got my car then neever again

 

I dont know.
but id rather contribute positive information based on experience, and other peoples experiences, then sit there saying "i cant know for sure, so i cant help you"

who gives a flying **** if im wrong, its better that he have 10 suggestions, and see if any of it helps him out....
then everyone saying....well, sorry man, i wasnt there, and i dont have enough info....so your **** outta luck.

I have given him ideas, shown him visually an issue that lots of us have dealth with, made a howto video to help explain my point,


what have you given him?

sure, i may be wrong. but id rather have tried to help and not be right, then not try at all.

 

Holy **** you read what you want, don't you? Show me where I said I didn't want to help this guy. SHOW ME. I asked for info, that's it. You are a hardheaded asshat. It's people like you that make people stay away from this forum. I asked for more info to give an informed judgement. That's how you diagnose a problem. I didn't jump to conclusions like someone I know.

 

you jumped on my nuts because I tried to help without knowing 100% what the answer is.

heres the quote for you.

All i have done is try to give suggestions of possible causes...and ways to maybe fix them.
and since i dont have a video tape replay of what happened...you rip on me.

but whatever.
Im done explaining myself to you. since obviously your just one of these people who cant have a dissagreement without using personal insults in every post.


Hope i helped in some way SS07. PM me if you want to talk.

peace.

 

wow bitching... ok more likely in my mind a broken axle... my car did the exact same thing at the track, but I wasn't doing a massive burnout, just drying the tires... but yeah revved free and that was it... all done broke both of em