I'm planning on buying my meth kit for Christmas and I need to understand the stg 1 and 2 for devilsown and which would be more efficient to buy. I'd rather spend the extra money and get the one that works better if that is the case but idk if that's what I should. I read the descriptions on both of them and kinda read through some threads but still am a little confused. Can anyone please help explain this better to me. Thanks guys.

 

Stage 2 is progressive. Aka it pumps more meth into the engine as boost rises.

Stage 1 just shoots the same amount of meth regardless of boost once activated.

 

Thats the jist of it, the stage two comes with a progressive controller to turn on part and full spray at a certain psi, the stage1 is on full after a pre set psi.

 

So would I be better off getting stage 2 so the spray progresses as my rpm's get higher? I'm def. getting it tuned once it's put it so I want to do this right, especially when it is going to be a lot of money. Also, would the car be okay to drive to wherever I get it tuned if I install it before hand and bring it to the place afterwards? Idk how hard it is to install or if I should really spend an extra 300 dollars to install it after spending close to a grand to get it and tune it. lol obviously I'll spend the money if I am better off but I was just curious.

 

Either or works its really up to you and what you want. In my experience i ran the stg2 kit on mine with a 2.5 gallon trunk mount, it worked very well for me. As far as the tune goes just don't connect power to the pump if you are afraid or don't get into boost and it will not spray.

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Like i said in the prior post the stage two kit just helps if you are more willing to play around with things because of the controller.

Have you decided on if you are going trunk mount or under the hood?

 

honestly, ive had alot of people, including one vendor, recommend the stage 1 (yes, thats right) for our setups..

With this hot ass supercharger, the air needs to be cooled right away as much as possible, not at just a percentage... And even then, if you did 1/4 spray at 8 psi, i wouldnt wanna be far from full spray at 11 or 12 psi... imo... so the extra money for the progressive just didnt seem worth bothering with...

But by all means, if your not strapped for cash, get what you want.

 

I have the Stage 2 kit and sort of feel the same way. With the Eaton the boost comes on instantly. So the kit maybe be in its "Progrossive Mode" for a very short time. You might want to just save a little money and get a standard kit that comes on a set PSI.

Now if you were turbo'd you might want a Stage 2 kit since it takes longer to build boost.

 

I have a stage 1 kit... .had zero problems and the car has run great for over a year using it!

 

Ok cool...So if I get the stage 1 and then maybe want to go to the progressive stage is there a way to just buy the controller which will make practically stage 2? The way you guys are talking about it, it seems like stage 1 is good enough. Is devilsown the best way to go or should I go with a different one like AEM or killer chiller which I've both read about...

 

i have stage 2...but it runs off maf....i love it.

 

What do you mean maf?

 

mass airflow sensor...

Really, its just another way to decide when to use the meth...

It goes more on how much air is being put into the engine, rather than boost itself...

I still dont see the need for the progressive kit.

 

Oh okay..What about the throttle plate sold on CA where you can practically spray right into the intake and tb...is it worth it? Any thoughts on it?

 

We also sell one ! The only real benefit to it is not having to tap a hole in your intake so if you have a aftermarket one your not destroying it.

 

Get one. They are well worth the money.

 

Well when I first got my car I had bought an AEM cai only finding out that I paid 150 bucks or whatever for a piece of metal and that was just deleting the box and a K+N filter. The pipe never ran from the tb to the inside corner of my bumper like Injens...so the upper part of my intake which you can see from under the hood is still the factory piping :/

 

Thats odd....

The k&n was a full replacement for me..

Injen is two peice i beleive, and uses the stock elbow from the TB...

I didnt know the AEM was like that. thats horrible.

 

Hell yea...that's what I said..the piece the give you with the filter is literally half the size to nooo longer than your average forearm...I thought it was bullshit that I paid that much and recieved such little..atleast for a stupid litte piping that didnt even replace all of the stock ****...does that mean I am not gettin the full potential an aftermarket one would get being it's not the hard piping?...

 

a full aftermarket intake will help air get into the engine better, and it deffinatly kicks the s/c sound up...

I dont like plastic on or near my engine, so i chose to replace mine.. i paid 275 for my k&n..

never regretted it.

 

It is more efficient to get the stage 2. However you can get stage 1 and tune accordingly. The advantage with stage 2 is that you can tell it how much of a mix you want of meth+fuel for timing ramp ups. Stage 1 just dumps all it can and so you lower the maf curve to keep desired AFR.

Really doesnt matter and the progressive kit becomes tedious to tune right due to compensating 2 different maf curves (methanol with the tuner box AND fuel through hp tuners)