So as most of you know i scratched my sleeve

today i honed it and cannot get the scratch all the way out, i did 3 passes with the tool, keeping it well within acceptable honing limits for rings, but my question is what sort of affect will a tiny scrat have on performance, I honestly cant find a way to get a new sleeve I have a sleeve just no way to get it out, and no performance shop, dealers or machine shops can do it for me.

So im stuck with a debate accept a tiny scratch or go **** which i should be and find a way to get the new sleeve in. I wish i could post a pic but my digi camera was stolen

It is seriously 1/2 long maybe 1/10mm wide and 1/10 mm deep

its jsut enough to be felt

 

Contact Darton Sleeves, they make them for the ECOTEC motors:

www.darton-international.com

 

i have a sleeve i need to get the bad one out

 

Whats preventing you from taking it out?

 

i dont have the tools,,,, there is a picture of the sleeve removal tool somewhere on this forum, i need to get my hands on one.. problem is not one chevy dealer in indiana has one i have called 62 dealers

 

Contact Jackalope on this forum (that exact name) privately. He works in the parts department of a GM dealership. He can help you as far as getting it ordered and possibly shipped to you. He's located in Maryland but he can still probably help you or atleast get you the part number.

 

thanks alot man

 

No problem. He's a good friend of mine. He'll be at work in the morning so PM him now and he'll defenitley PM you back when he gets into work.

Sorry if I sounded harsh on you in the past but I just want you to learn from your mistakes but I do want to see you at 100% and running stronger but this time doing things correctly and safely.

Good luck with everything. If you have anymore questions, just ask.

 

guess i have to find a machine shop im going to get a picture of the scratch with my moms digital camera and post it so you and other can give me your opinions, i honestly dont have the 1-2k to shell out to pay a machine shop lol

 

hey........do u have the j-tool number for the special tool?

 

If you really want to but I dont condone doing this but have seen people do this before in a pinch. Get some 2000 grit wet/dry sandpaper and vey gently wet sand the scratch. I know people who have done it but I never have.

 

I don't see why a good machine shop couldn't press out the old sleeve and press in a new one. All they would have to do after that is mill the deck flush, and it shouldn't cost but a couple hundred bucks max.

 

your exactly right, i found one today finally after a lot of searching $200 to remove old sleeve install teh new one and do teh head and deck for the new head gasket

im so happy, now just have to pull the block,..........

 

yah ive pulled the motor twice now, its not so bad, just make sure u tape connectors, so u knwo where eberythign goes, and take it as an oppurtunity to paint the block

 

The tool for sleeve removal is EN 45680-850 Cylinder Sleeve Removal and Installation Kit

Here is the info on GM SI :

Tools Required
EN 45680-850 Cylinder Sleeve Removal and Installation Kit

Notice: Do not chill or heat the cylinder bore sleeve or the cylinder block when removing or installing a new cylinder bore sleeve. Chilling or heating the cylinder bore sleeve or the cylinder block will cause engine damage and will not aid the removal or installation of the new cylinder bore sleeve.

Notice: Do not damage the crankshaft connecting rod journals or reluctor ring or engine damage will occur.



1. If the crankshaft is still installed, rotate the crankshaft so that the counterweight is to the right side and the connecting rod journal is to the left side and not in alignment with the cylinder bore.

2. Install the cylinder bore sleeve puller (1) through the cylinder bore.
Notice: Ensure that the shoe is flat against the bottom of the cylinder bore sleeve or damage to the cylinder bore sleeve puller will occur.

3. Align the shoe (1) of the cylinder bore sleeve puller to the bottom of the cylinder bore sleeve (117).


4. Hold the threaded shaft of the cylinder bore sleeve puller upward in order to retain the shoe alignment to the bottom of the cylinder bore sleeve.

5. Install the fixture (4) onto the threaded shaft of the cylinder bore sleeve puller and the engine block.

6. Install the bearing (3) and the nut (1).

7. Tighten the nut (1) to the bearing (3).
Notice: Refer to Fastener Notice in Cautions and Notices.

Important: Use 4 old cylinder head bolts for the attaching bolts.


8. Install and tighten the 4 attaching bolts (2) into the cylinder head bolt holes of the block.

Tighten
Tighten the bolts to 15 Nˇm (11 lb ft).


9. Rotate the nut clockwise in order to remove the cylinder bore sleeve.


Notice: Do not damage the cylinder block surface. Damage to the cylinder block surface can cause engine failure.

10. Remove the fixture, cylinder bore sleeve puller, and the cylinder bore sleeve (117) from the engine block.

11. Loosen the nut (1) to remove the cylinder bore sleeve (117).

12. Inspect the cylinder bore in the cylinder block for cracks or damage. If cracked or damaged, replace the cylinder block.

13. Inspect the piston, piston rings, and connecting rod for damage. Refer to Piston, Connecting Rod, and Bearings Cleaning and Inspection

 

hmmm might be a good purchase

 

Good deal! I have an awsome machine shop in Charleston that resurfaced my head. They did an excellent job. The place was hard as hell to find, but their reputation is top notch and they lived up to it for sure. I can't wait for your beast to get put back together.

 

you and me both im sick of being carless

 

fyi if it breaks again im burning down my garage

 

Can I have all your tools?

 

lol im talking about blasfimy buring a cobalt and u want the tools? shame on you i would be asking for the motor