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Old 06-08-2010, 07:28 PM
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new zzp cams anyone??

anyone run them? if so what stage? like/dislike? i need new cams cuz my JBP cams got ruined when i broke my JBP solid lifters. switching back to stock lifters and lookin to go with zzp cams. any thoughts/comments/videos would be awesome. thanks
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seriously...no one?
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they work well is what ive read look at turbo tims build with them on the ion forums
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Tims build looks good but he has a lot of other mods to single out the performance of the cams.

I have been toying around with the idea of getting them as well, just would like to see some hard numbers before I invest that much.

Also Steve, are you in Valpo? If so I would love to see the car some day.
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im thinkin cams are gonna be my winter project so i would love to knwo about this to... and its kinda cool but im from hammond.... small world
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Originally Posted by Chord
Tims build looks good but he has a lot of other mods to single out the performance of the cams.

I have been toying around with the idea of getting them as well, just would like to see some hard numbers before I invest that much.

Also Steve, are you in Valpo? If so I would love to see the car some day.
well its down at the moment but come on by man. the thing is sick as hell. i have a full mods list in my VB garage. PM me yur number or somethin and we can shoot the ****. i got just about any tool you would need to tear apart a cobalt. plus my buddy is buildin a nasty turbo 2.2 coby right next to mine. that thing is gonna be a freak. hes shootin for 600+ hp. oh and the beer is always cold! lol

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im thinkin cams are gonna be my winter project so i would love to knwo about this to... and its kinda cool but im from hammond.... small world
**** man you can pm me yur number too and we can set up a time to meet up. have a freakin mini meet at my place!

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Old 06-09-2010, 09:16 PM
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Metal I grew up in Hammond, was just out in Hessville yesterday changing my damn IC pump and putting a new 310 gph fuel pump in my buds Procharged Mustang.

We are planning a trip down to US 41 sometime in the next month or so to blow up the cars.
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well I am planning on blowing my car up. THinking either shoot the axle out the rear end, spin out and hit a wall, or run 14.5 @114MPH. Havent decided wich yet, maybe all three.
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**** sounds like a plan
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Originally Posted by Chord
Tims build looks good but he has a lot of other mods to single out the performance of the cams..
no he dosent the stroker will yield way more tq not hp
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in for info about these cams
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I think a member from the rlf got them installed (stg 1) and they were nothing but a problem and ended up costing him more money. Let me see if I can find the thread. Found it and the issue he had was he needed to buy adjustable cam gears for an extra $400 dollars to get them to run right and then went through the tuning part of it.

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I had the same problem with my comp cams. I could not get the timing to go above -2.5 at idle. This was due to not being able to degree the cams (we think). I just put the stockers in for now. Idle is fixed.
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From what I see aftermarket cams should be put off until you get bored and theres not much more to do. For close to 1k its almost better to go back to stockers and look at doing something else such as a head p+p.
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Originally Posted by skatin_boarding
Found it and the issue he had was he needed to buy adjustable cam gears for an extra $400 dollars to get them to run right and then went through the tuning part of it.
yup you cant half way install a set of cams they need to be degreed in so it all works the way its supposed to

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From what I see aftermarket cams should be put off until you get bored and theres not much more to do. For close to 1k its almost better to go back to stockers and look at doing something else such as a head p+p.
they are worth it you but you need all the pieces to make it work

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I didnt say not worth it, just maybe put it down on the list.
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honestly though, if you get a set that is MADE for the cobalts and your type (N/A, blower, etc) then you should be ok.
im not boosted, but I run an off the shelf Comp stage 2 cam in my balt and they work fine. I upgraded the valve springs so that i could better use the power band, but other then that they installed fine.

and of course, if you have enough **** done to need to change the timing setup, then you have the cash to buy the adjustable timing gears
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if you dont degree in the cams your loosing out
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stupid question but please explain to me how a cam is degreed... im not understanding
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
if you dont degree in the cams your loosing out
although without the adjustable timing gears its a waste of time. you may be loosing out to a tiny bit, but honestly, with the ways these things are put together, you should usually be fine.

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stupid question but please explain to me how a cam is degreed... im not understanding
you use a tool that shows you the degrees of rotation in looking at the cam to the crank. You find how it should be rotated and aligned for the 100% proper opening of the valves in relation to compression. for the most part its a waste of time with the way our setups are assembled unless your making a race engine. for the average person esp on here with a set of cams, its a drop in install and drive (unless tune is needed)

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Originally Posted by StevesBlack06
stupid question but please explain to me how a cam is degreed... im not understanding
Look up the LSJ Build Book, it explains it there.

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although without the adjustable timing gears its a waste of time. you may be loosing out to a tiny bit, but honestly, with the ways these things are put together, you should usually be fine.


you use a tool that shows you the degrees of rotation in looking at the cam to the crank. You find how it should be rotated and aligned for the 100% proper opening of the valves in relation to compression. for the most part its a waste of time with the way our setups are assembled unless your making a race engine. for the average person esp on here with a set of cams, its a drop in install and drive (unless tune is needed)
I can tell you first hand they are not just drop and drive.
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cams drop in and drive? ummm ya.....
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ok, drop in, tune, and drive


and yes, they are haha
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i understand now. thanks. im surprised that really no one is running their cams... i think im gonna do it. i think im gonna run the stage 3s and spin to 9500. why not... im built for it...
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Originally Posted by NightHawk
ok, drop in, tune, and drive


and yes, they are haha
your another uneducated person on these boards

if you dont degee the cams in your cam pos sensor is off and when that happens the timing shows up as a negative number in other words the timing is retarded and the engine will run like **** so go ahead and do it your way then come back and let us know how it goes


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