Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
(Post 6963970)
Belvedere says: dyno is bragging rights. 1320 is the true story.
So, I say its all over at the 60ft. so all you heros go to the 1320 and post up the results: tvs stock cam, compared to tvs s2 cams, two cars, two drivers same day ;switch drivers in the cars three runs each. then you got something to talk about . ' aintgonnahappen.com. PS I have dyno sheets on all the cam combos I have mentioned we have built |
Did a few pulls today only up to about 7k but I will say that up top the difference is quite noticeable, and I really wish I could have ran it out higher, but soon enough. Started a couple pulls from about 3500rpms and yes there was a slight feeling of torque loss down there, but you can feel the power come on a bit after 4k. The car has a different feel than with the stock cams. Power comes on a little slower and smoother (slight tq loss maybe?) but it has a constant continous pulling feeling as in it pulls more and more the higher you rev. Timing is still backed down a bit but not so much that it would affect my first impressions of the cams. Thats all I got for now lol needs to stay nice out so I can drive my car more.
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not in mine it was rather snappy were tuning do 50 rolls from 3rd and trying to breaking the tires loose
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Still waiting to see some dyno sheets to show the gains/losses from stock to stg 2 cams.
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
(Post 6964263)
chassis dynos are for bragging rights but best used for tuning to many different types to compare accurately know one has said the stock cams are junk they have their place but you get all hell bent and say they are worthless well the stg2 or 3 cams from zzp may be for the racing you like to do and there are other options also to have cams for the racing that you do also but you will neve see that until you take the blinder off
I said ZZP provide a very good product. I said my customer LOVES them I said its all over by the 60 ft. I said for the money, price versus performance, for dd they are totally not worth it. I said that stock cams vs. stage 2 on the 1320 my money is on stock cams, because its all over by the 60 ft. I said go prove who is right on the track. I said for my money I would not use them. Now Area47 appears to agree. Now Infraredline appears says he notices "some" torque loss Now someone wants dyno sheets? I got them but I sure as hell am not going to go to the trouble of looking it up right now. And in 5 minutes I guess , I think I figured out what you are saying in your post , Mr.B. |
I like mrB's posts cuz I get to put my detective hat on
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Originally Posted by Vander Nars
(Post 6964367)
Still waiting to see some dyno sheets to show the gains/losses from stock to stg 2 cams.
Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
(Post 6964393)
lets keep on topic. #1 I didnt say they were useless, in fact, I said the only place I figure they are worth using is for 1320.
I said ZZP provide a very good product. I said my customer LOVES them I said its all over by the 60 ft. I said for the money, price versus performance, for dd they are totally not worth it. I said that stock cams vs. stage 2 on the 1320 my money is on stock cams, because its all over by the 60 ft. I said go prove who is right on the track. I said for my money I would not use them. Now Area47 appears to agree. Now Infraredline appears says he notices "some" torque loss Now someone wants dyno sheets? I got them but I sure as hell am not going to go to the trouble of looking it up right now. And in 5 minutes I guess , I think I figured out what you are saying in your post , Mr.B. if you feel a loss in the bottom then the tune is off mine didn't loose in the bottom the race isn't over by the 60ft and im glad you like my post get your detective hat on |
Originally Posted by armcclure
(Post 6964417)
I like mrB's posts cuz I get to put my detective hat on
After re-reading their posts numerous times, I always pick up on what they are getting at. Good stuff. |
Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
(Post 6963970)
so all you heros go to the 1320 and post up the results: tvs stock cam, compared to tvs s2 cams, two cars, two drivers same day ;switch drivers in the cars three runs each.
then you got something to talk about . ' aintgonnahappen.com. :twothumbs
Originally Posted by armcclure
(Post 6964021)
Ppl act like 1000's are insanely bigger than 80's...
Originally Posted by armcclure
(Post 6964021)
Crank the damn pressure up. They can take it. Figure out what your pump can handle.
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jap. you're not out of injector. not even close.
scale the map if it's not already, retune. there is a few tricks with the maf and pe table crap that can gain a larger window of "indicated" idc |
May need a little help with that.
Ill try increasing rail pressure and retune to see how it improves |
well upped the FP to 58 at base (~52at idle with vac connected) revised the tune for the FP change
made it to 8k on a stretch of road in my neighborhood, i gotta tell you, the car is a handful at upper rpm at WOT the FP change made no net effect on IDCs that are still 110%+ i gotta do something here! anyways 8K eye candy https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/fil..._out_1000s.png |
whats the afr doing?
shoot me an email. i'll work on a fix for it. |
area knows best.
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
(Post 6964470)
Between him and area, my brain is always spinning with the riddles and hidden info.
After re-reading their posts numerous times, I always pick up on what they are getting at. Good stuff. |
Bryan - email sent
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
(Post 6965043)
I'm trying to learn since my purchase. I need tvs for dummies book...
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Originally Posted by JapEatr
(Post 6964963)
well upped the FP to 58 at base (~52at idle with vac connected) revised the tune for the FP change
made it to 8k on a stretch of road in my neighborhood, i gotta tell you, the car is a handful at upper rpm at WOT the FP change made no net effect on IDCs that are still 110%+ i gotta do something here! anyways 8K eye candy https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/fil..._out_1000s.png |
Yea i have fp rewire, no data logging on FP
Currently |
Even with no boost after it being on jackstands for 3 months if felt so damn good to get it running and cruise around a bit last night :D
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574 do you have HPT?
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Originally Posted by JapEatr
(Post 6965602)
574 do you have HPT?
Nick I'm jealous Maybe if I'm not shot after work I'll bolt her down Does the arp lube go on both sides of the stud? Also cam break in , syn oil or conventional |
I just put lube on the block threads. I may be able to do a log this weekend. Not sure how that all works with un locking my vin. I heard I can do tweaks without using credits? I don't know
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You can log without unlocking but can't tweak your tune.
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It sucks because I don't know what issues are being caused by my tune, such as winter blend and fuel trims being off because of new intake and what issues I could fix myself.
I know tuners hate tuning around "broken" cars but IDK what would be classified as "broke" if anyone gets what I'm saying |
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