Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
(Post 6426928)
when will you all see that there is a much better piece of the puzzle out there to make making the hp easier then dropping pullies
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
(Post 6426809)
if your using e you can have a rstf with a 1 to 1 rising rate regulator and 80s still wont be enough you i dont care if you have 320 lt/hr pump the injectors just wont spray enough fuel you will have a better chance of it on c16 vp but the pistons wont take the heat for a very longtime the reason a turbo swapped lsj will handle more hp on stock stuff is the turbo isent going to produce near as much heat as a the tvs is going to you will need to be a 2.6 pully to even come close to 360 and that is alot of heat to deal with
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Wish I had a dynojet near me :( *sighs*
I believe mrbelvedere is hinting at cams |
Originally Posted by Bluelightning
(Post 6427081)
Adding NOS? :lol:
Originally Posted by ebristol
(Post 6427117)
Are you running a TVS on E85 with 80s?
Originally Posted by InfraRedline
(Post 6427426)
Wish I had a dynojet near me :( *sighs*
I believe mrbelvedere is hinting at cams on a side note people can keep beating the drop pully horse till its dead and a ported head till its dead to you wont be able to use a ported head to its full potential on stock cams the stock cams are dam good for a set of stock cams how would you like to be able to make 340 or so hp on a tvs with 2.9 or 3.0 pully on gas and meth its very possable to do that with a set of cams and a dam good tuner the idea is to not to have to spin the piss out of the blower to make the power you want do what it takes to make it easier to make the power not harder slamming a smaller pully and throwing it on isent the complete answer on a 2.9 pully at 7300 i move 47.9lbs a min my budd on e and a 2.8 at 7500 is moving 45lbs a min |
Originally Posted by InfraRedline
(Post 6427426)
Wish I had a dynojet near me :( *sighs*
I believe mrbelvedere is hinting at cams |
Originally Posted by BlackMagic
(Post 6427467)
Come down to Sioux falls, excessive has a dynojet. Lysholm is getting shipped out wednesday btw
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Originally Posted by InfraRedline
(Post 6427479)
My friend from Fargo is sending his Top Speed built STi with a pte5857 down their pretty soon! So we gonna get together and get that thing dialed in? Saw you were talking to James as well so wasn't sure which route you were going to take.
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Oh I didnt mean anything bad by that, I just wasnt sure what your plans were. Im down if you can get out this way sometime!
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Originally Posted by InfraRedline
(Post 6427547)
Oh I didnt mean anything bad by that, I just wasnt sure what your plans were. Im down if you can get out this way sometime!
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Originally Posted by BlackMagic
(Post 6427554)
I didn't take it as you meant anything bad. I totally understand. I will definitely see if I can get it there
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And cams are the next piece to my puzzle just got to get the tax return first and sell a couple things... unfortunately bills come first. Who knew :)
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
(Post 6427465)
im on a tvs but not e its not here yet i wish it was but i dont need to be on e to know how to setup the fuel system but 80s on e will never be able to supply enough fuel
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
(Post 6427465)
im on a tvs but not e its not here yet i wish it was but i dont need to be on e to know how to setup the fuel system but 80s on e will never be able to supply enough fuel
Originally Posted by alleycat58
(Post 6427686)
On the stock fuel system I assume? Been running 80s on E for well over a year (w/BRFS) with no issues.
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Originally Posted by ebristol
(Post 6427915)
So have other people. I am not sure where he is coming up with his opinion.
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Originally Posted by ebristol
(Post 6427915)
So you don't know what your talking about then...
So have other people. I am not sure where he is coming up with his opinion. |
Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
(Post 6428173)
you can run 80s on e but your not going to get very far even with just a pump a change or a brfs or a rstfs 340 to 350 hp is roughly as far as you can push them the 80s just cant spray enough fuel at 58lbs the needle valve and spray orfice is just to small to do the job now if you want to still use 80s and run a rsfs with a 1 to 1 regulator your going to have to run a base pressure of 55 to 60lbs and a wide open presssure of 80lbs or more to force the injector be able to spray enough fuel and idc wise your looking at 95 to 100% and that could possably get you into the 370hp range
On my current TVS, 2.9", E85 RSFS with the base pressure set at 43.5psi I have not 100% IDC at 7k with a commanded AFR of 11.8. Max IDC is 95% around 7000rpms. The tune is not 100% but I feel comfortable saying that I should not have to raise the base pressure to provide enough fueling for this 2.9" pulley @ ~7200rpms. I am seeing max boost of 20psi so my FP should be ~63.6psi This pulley will put me in the 330whp range. For the 2.7" pulley I plan on settings the base pressure to 50psi which means at max boost I should be running ~72psi of FP. I think that should be enough to provide the fueling I need. I have read that the stock pump gives up between 70-80psi. I have read the 80s give up at 80psi of FP. |
Originally Posted by ebristol
(Post 6428319)
Gotcha. We are closer the same page then I thought.
On my current TVS, 2.9", E85 RSFS with the base pressure set at 43.5psi I have not 100% IDC at 7k with a commanded AFR of 11.8. Max IDC is 95% around 7000rpms. The tune is not 100% but I feel comfortable saying that I should not have to raise the base pressure to provide enough fueling for this 2.9" pulley @ ~7200rpms. I am seeing max boost of 20psi so my FP should be ~63.6psi This pulley will put me in the 330whp range. For the 2.7" pulley I plan on settings the base pressure to 50psi which means at max boost I should be running ~72psi of FP. I think that should be enough to provide the fueling I need. I have read that the stock pump gives up between 70-80psi. I have read the 80s give up at 80psi of FP. |
Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
(Post 6428359)
its time for a new pump and inj eric
I don't have any plans on running anything lower then a 2.7" pulley this year. And I agree with you that a 2.6" is silly on the stock head. I am also not sold on cams yet. I have not seen any concert evidence that tells me that I have to be running them with my setup. And Cam + TVS means there is another $3000 investment to do it right: Cams Ported Head Springs - A good idea anyway NBS or BSD ATI Balancer 3k for 30whp is not in my budget. I know I said 361 but realistically it is 350 or bust. |
i wouldent say 3000 to do cams and i wouldent go past a 2.8
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Originally Posted by InfraRedline
(Post 6427555)
Sounds boss :cool:
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There is some good info in this thread!!
Keep it up guys :) |
running higher than 11.5 afr on e is leaving power on the table.
just a lil fyi. :) |
Oh snap
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:O well there we have it and yes very good info in here sitcky soon??
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Originally Posted by G11
(Post 6429473)
:O well there we have it and yes very good info in here sitcky soon??
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