Is OTTP's 4th gen H/E out of stock or something? I was wanting to get this soon but on their website there is no 'Add to cart' option...

OTTP Heat Exchanger - Over The Top Performance

 

not sure. save your money though. word on the street is that theyre gonna start selling the griffins later next week. but you won't find that info on this site

 

Yup out of stock. Wont be in till October last time i heard. Get the ZZP stage 3 heat exchanger for best bang for you're buck. Yes they are coming out with a griffin heat exchanger to go in place of stock but be prepared to pay for it...

 

I heard that too, that their 5th gen would be a Griffin H/E...but obviously more expensive lol

 

Ya i have a funny feeling it won't be cheap lol

 

ZZP S3 is low on stock too thats why i started looking at the OTTP one...damnit lol and yes, i saw a used Griffen H/E for sale at like $550 and that was supposedly a great price, so im expecting something expensive lol

 

you guys really need to get on the other site. lol. its gonna be ~600 but flow compared to any other out on the market is unbelieveable. powell has done many cooling system tests. just, get the griffin.

 

Lol what other site are you talking about? i know there are a few other cobalt forums but ive never really looked into joining them too lol

600 I liked the 190-230ish price for the ZZP or OTTP, while the Griffin will be amazing i wouldve been satisfied with the results from the cheaper route lol

 

suit yourself

 

Oh i don't doubt it's gonna be an amazing product. But it's also going to be almost triple the price. I have a tough time spending that much on a heat exchanger. Might as well just go turbo lol

 

This.

 

people spend 600 on meth, h/e, dual pass, option b. when you could buy one thing. and have the same cooling effects.

 

I spent $600 on all 4 and see 120-130* after a pull and am running 25* of timing with no knock. The heat exchanger will not do that. Keep it cool, yes. Add as much performance, definatly not

 

after 6 pulls on the dyno with the griffin and opt b. he put down his highest numbers. aits never went above 125* on 6 back to back pulls. he's running a tvs

 

Like i said, will it keep temps cool, absolutley. But you aren't going to be running more timing with a heat exchanger like you will with meth. Run the griffin heat exchanger with meth... Then you got a deadly combo haha. But it would be damn expensive

 

i don't hink you understand lol. meth is not needed with this setup. 6 BACK TO BACK pulls on the dyno. tvs, aggresive timing, highest numbers on the LAST pull. his setup probably out performed my ottp dual pass version h/e +meth setup.

 

thats rediculous ^ in a good way

 

I understand. Guess i'll have to see it in action. For a heat exchanger to replace meth would be pretty cool. Cant wait

 

area has one for sale for $450 if it hasn't sold yet...

 

I saw that a few weeks ago, i thought he had it for sale for $550...either way, i will try to find that thread and maybe shoot him a PM about it

EDIT: Found the thread, i think he sold it, sale was pending as of 8/12

 

EDIT: Found the thread, i think he sold it, sale was pending as of 8/12[/QUOTE]

Lol thats almost a month ago you message him now and say you got the money now for it he might change his mind just my 2 cents

 

meth dosent cool the intake charge it just adds octane to be able to run more timing if you mix water in with the meth then the water will cool the intake charge

 

get a cheap heat exchanger then spend $50-$75 to get it coated with thermal dispersant and it will outperform any expensive exchanger of similar dimensions.

 

doubt it

 

no doubt involved. if you've used the stuff before, you wouldn't say that

but hell not my money, so you can spend it on a $8000 heat exchanger for all i care