Please help, fuel pressure issue.
Please help, fuel pressure issue.
Guys i need some help, my car is at the dealer with an issue. I had them install a 2.8 pulley and 60lb injectors. That saturday when i went to move the car a couple feet to wash it in a wash bay it idled a little rough but the car moved fine in 1st without an issue. Later that day I had a tuner help me tune the car with a tune for my car.
I bought the injectors from new era performance, siemens 60lbs flowmatched with the harness that they were offering. Im running Fujita intake, zzp header, zzp 3inch downpipe, with a corsa exhaust and dual bypass option B.
The problem with the car is that while we were tuning it, we had the ecu requesting for fuel, but not recieving what it was requesting. We had a hell of a time trying to get it to tune properly so we left it alone to figure out something. The tuner decided to just leave a stg 2 tune with the ability to handle the 60lbs. Later on when i went to go leave from the dealer on saturday the car would not give any gas in second gear, it would sputter out to 400 rpm and die.
Thinking that it was the fuel filter i left the car at the dealer to take a look at it. They called me and told me that the fuel filter is inline and not external, and that they were going to go back to a gm stage 2 tune and trouble shoot from there. I just need some more ideas for them to check to fix.
Is it possible that the fuel pump has gone bad? It is an 06 and Ive only got 48,000 miles on the car.
I bought the injectors from new era performance, siemens 60lbs flowmatched with the harness that they were offering. Im running Fujita intake, zzp header, zzp 3inch downpipe, with a corsa exhaust and dual bypass option B.
The problem with the car is that while we were tuning it, we had the ecu requesting for fuel, but not recieving what it was requesting. We had a hell of a time trying to get it to tune properly so we left it alone to figure out something. The tuner decided to just leave a stg 2 tune with the ability to handle the 60lbs. Later on when i went to go leave from the dealer on saturday the car would not give any gas in second gear, it would sputter out to 400 rpm and die.
Thinking that it was the fuel filter i left the car at the dealer to take a look at it. They called me and told me that the fuel filter is inline and not external, and that they were going to go back to a gm stage 2 tune and trouble shoot from there. I just need some more ideas for them to check to fix.
Is it possible that the fuel pump has gone bad? It is an 06 and Ive only got 48,000 miles on the car.
CED, there dealership is very friendly to aftermarket stuff. They dont **** and moan like others.
Last edited by DrkknightSS99; Apr 7, 2008 at 02:42 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
You need a better tuner. 60# are EASY to tune. I just tuned a guy last tuesday and he drove the 8 hours home to El Paso with no problems. I have that much confidence in my tunes.
Wasn't me.......and does he really know what he is doing with 60#s? They aren't "Tunable" through the regular menus since they max out the values before you even hit 0-MAP pressure.
You have to change the min pulse width, and the adders and all that crap.........my guess is that he doesn't know it.
You have to change the min pulse width, and the adders and all that crap.........my guess is that he doesn't know it.
Last edited by Psykostevo; Apr 7, 2008 at 02:49 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Wasn't me.......and does he really know what he is doing with 60#s? They aren't "Tunable" through the regular menus since they max out the values before you even hit 0-MAP pressure.
You have to change the min pulse width, and the adders and all that crap.........my guess is that he doesn't know it.
Your car is EASILY tunable with that setup. I'll get you my starting tune to help you out.
Last edited by Psykostevo; Apr 7, 2008 at 03:07 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Im not pointing my finger at anyone. I just want ideas, as a community and a forum here thats what is here for, to help each other out, although sometimes it turns out to be a flame war in some instances.
Then how does the car run fine on Stage 2? That's what makes me believe it has nothing to do with the fuel pump. I also have not seen 1 fuel pump go bad on all the cobalts I have tuned. And I can say that I have probably tuned more than any other person on this site. So it's not likely the cause. But I won't know until after I get a chance at it too.
the tune is peachy. the only reason why your car would freak like it did. even at 15 mph is lack of fuel.
there is nothing wrong with the injectors.

call tom!
or i can call em.
A. you were not there.
B. you didn't hear the fuel pump surging.
C. everything was set back to the way it came in. same thing happened.
there is nothing wrong with the injectors.

call tom!
or i can call em.
Then how does the car run fine on Stage 2? That's what makes me believe it has nothing to do with the fuel pump. I also have not seen 1 fuel pump go bad on all the cobalts I have tuned. And I can say that I have probably tuned more than any other person on this site. So it's not likely the cause. But I won't know until after I get a chance at it too.
B. you didn't hear the fuel pump surging.
C. everything was set back to the way it came in. same thing happened.
Last edited by Area47; Apr 7, 2008 at 03:39 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
i wouldnt say that i know what im talking about. i just happen to be one of the people who were near the car, and who actually know whats wrong with it, and why it puked itself.
there is more to this story than what is being told, but it has nothing to do with the tune itself.
there is more to this story than what is being told, but it has nothing to do with the tune itself.
for those who don't know the issue.
here is an idea.
go out to your car. pull the fuel pump relay. move it one set of holes down. start car. give it gas. car does not rev. car will die.
this is what his car did in second gear going down ced's back parking lot.
now. for those who moved the relay down a set of holes. grab a flash light. look for the four metal female holes in there. put relay back in it's right spot.
here is an idea.
go out to your car. pull the fuel pump relay. move it one set of holes down. start car. give it gas. car does not rev. car will die.
this is what his car did in second gear going down ced's back parking lot.
now. for those who moved the relay down a set of holes. grab a flash light. look for the four metal female holes in there. put relay back in it's right spot.
for those who don't know the issue.
here is an idea.
go out to your car. pull the fuel pump relay. move it one set of holes down. start car. give it gas. car does not rev. car will die.
this is what his car did in second gear going down ced's back parking lot.
now. for those who moved the relay down a set of holes. grab a flash light. look for the four metal female holes in there. put relay back in it's right spot.
here is an idea.
go out to your car. pull the fuel pump relay. move it one set of holes down. start car. give it gas. car does not rev. car will die.
this is what his car did in second gear going down ced's back parking lot.
now. for those who moved the relay down a set of holes. grab a flash light. look for the four metal female holes in there. put relay back in it's right spot.
Hey maybe is has the relay installed, but they forgot to put back in the 15A fuse for the fuelpump?
Last edited by Psykostevo; Apr 7, 2008 at 05:19 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
intresting thing is that CED is telling me that it is not the filter nor the pump, and that they both are in the tank. Either way ive got a few days to figure this out or i might tommorow just have them drop the gas tank and look at it anyways.
some pretty flamed out people if this guy is running out of gas....we all assume he isnt and are offering help ....maybe thats a wrong assumption...in the meantime you read this forum, there are many folks out there with melted pistons, so its true I think that good tuners are hard to find...and if you are worried about it stick with the GM stuff it may not be the fastest , but then it wont blow up....
I'm done...
I'm done...



