Is it possible for a tune to "go bad"?
Is it possible for a tune to "go bad"?
Mods: 2.8, 60's, Stage 2 belt, CTI header/catted downpipe, meagan exhaust, RAW 3" CAI, OTTP Heat exchanger, Tuned by OTTP.
When I first installed everything:
AFR @ Cruise: 14.3-15.8
WOT: 10.0
Boost PSI: 17lbs
After about a week:
AFR @ Cruise: 13.5-15.2
WOT: 10.0
Boost PSI: 15lbs
After about a month:
AFR @ Cruise: Dipping from 11.2 to 15
WOT: 10.0
Boost PSI: 13lbs
I have no access what so ever to HPtuners, so I can't log while I'm driving. I've had a few hesitations issues within the first 30 seconds of driving at times, and today it almost fell flat on it's face when I shifted into second. However, when the engine warmed up a bit, I no longer have those issues.
Any idea WTF is going on? The belt is not slipping, clutch is still good, yet I'm somehow loosing boost and the car is getting choked it seems like. I hardly ever drive the car hard. (outside of the first week I installed everything.) so it's just weird that I keep loosing PSI/power as time goes on.
When I first installed everything:
AFR @ Cruise: 14.3-15.8
WOT: 10.0
Boost PSI: 17lbs
After about a week:
AFR @ Cruise: 13.5-15.2
WOT: 10.0
Boost PSI: 15lbs
After about a month:
AFR @ Cruise: Dipping from 11.2 to 15
WOT: 10.0
Boost PSI: 13lbs
I have no access what so ever to HPtuners, so I can't log while I'm driving. I've had a few hesitations issues within the first 30 seconds of driving at times, and today it almost fell flat on it's face when I shifted into second. However, when the engine warmed up a bit, I no longer have those issues.
Any idea WTF is going on? The belt is not slipping, clutch is still good, yet I'm somehow loosing boost and the car is getting choked it seems like. I hardly ever drive the car hard. (outside of the first week I installed everything.) so it's just weird that I keep loosing PSI/power as time goes on.
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make a trip to dayton... or I'll be in Sandusky on sat/sun
it can be anything w/o seeing the car in person and w/o scans
it can be anything w/o seeing the car in person and w/o scans
Last edited by WickedSS2005; May 25, 2009 at 04:35 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Nope, no CEL's what-so-ever. As much as I'd love to have someone check out the OTTP tune, I don't necessary have the money to drop down. Kind of need this set up to work.
and I have the typical AEM wideband.
oh, and the car only has 25k miles on it if that matters at all.
and I have the typical AEM wideband.
oh, and the car only has 25k miles on it if that matters at all.
Last edited by Opi; May 25, 2009 at 10:49 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
never said i was jamming, i said shifting
already said that wasn't the issue
yup, generally not happy with the canned OTTP tune. actually, not in the slightest happy right now
already said that wasn't the issue
yup, generally not happy with the canned OTTP tune. actually, not in the slightest happy right now
i do indeed have a leak at the header, but as the car warms up, the tick goes away. (i'm assuming the gasket is expanding). another ****-quality product i bought.
I've gone through 2 engines now and my experiance is this, if your tune is slipping of boost is lessoning there is usually only one or two reason's. A, the pistons/rings are leaking or two the valve guides are leaking at higher RPMS. Call me crazy but this is what I've noticed. My car has 29K on it and I've gone through two engines, please trust me. A sure shot way to know if this is the case is to perform a leak down check this is a procedure i've com to now very well! Good luck brother...
The plan right now is to go meet up with Wicked Saturday and have him take a look at my car; get it scanned and retuned. I can safely say, I'll never trust a canned tune from anyone. The fact I run so rich has worried me from day 1.
Considering the car drives perfectly fine, minus not hitting max boost like i used too, after it hits full operating temp I was never extremely worried about it. Now hearing the couple horror stories worries me. 
I haven't even been driving it after I noticed the problems. Saturday when I take it to Sandusky will be the first time I took it anywhere since my 10 minute trip to wal-mart Monday.
God praying it's just a problem with the tune.
I haven't even been driving it after I noticed the problems. Saturday when I take it to Sandusky will be the first time I took it anywhere since my 10 minute trip to wal-mart Monday.
God praying it's just a problem with the tune.


