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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Okay guys I am a bit disappointed and I want some feedback as I have to make a decision that is as hard for me to make as the choice to drop the LSJ.

Here is the problem, the car will be capable of running in the low 7's

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new NHRA rules supposedly add some bars for the cage at that speed. One of those bars virtually eliminates the passenger seat. No passenger seat means no street driving because who the hell drives by themselves in a fun car?

So please take a moment and give me your feed back. I never wanted a trailer queen. I don't want a trailer queen but without these bars 8.5 is all I will be allowed to run. After all the heartache that doesn't sound good considering the car should run very low 7's.


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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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Accept that this is a race car already and run it as fast as she will go
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Black SS/SC 06
Accept that this is a race car already and run it as fast as she will go
That sounds so easy so why isn't it????
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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i think you will be happy with a 8.5
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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This has been a race car since they day you talked hp numbers you did. It's a race car. Keep it so it can pass inspection and you can do street runs if you want too.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
That sounds so easy so why isn't it????
In the end it's your call man. You put all the time, money, and effort into this. So the question should be what do you want out of it?
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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trailer queens are for **** and pussies keep it street worthy
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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keep it streetable..

not having the full correctness just means you cant crash that one 6-7 second run you do before you get kicked out lol

or you can get an inline boost regulator and bleed off boost from the procharger basically a wastegate.. then you can run low and high boost...
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 06CobaltssOrange
i think you will be happy with a 8.5
A brother of mine who runs low 10's agrees with you.

Originally Posted by slowswap
This has been a race car since they day you talked hp numbers you did. It's a race car. Keep it so it can pass inspection and you can do street runs if you want too.
Having it be streetable is required for me to run at the 'street legal' events which is where I can get practice before I go for my NHRA lisence. Perhaps option 3 will work in the end.

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trailer queens are for **** and pussies keep it street worthy
I have to say that I agree with that sentiment.

On a side note, I was remembering when you first joined here you were so polite, maybe even more so than I. Reading your posts lately and I detect a more straight forward attitude from you. I am just imagining this???
Originally Posted by elecblue06
keep it streetable..

not having the full correctness just means you cant crash that one 6-7 second run you do before you get kicked out lol

or you can get an inline boost regulator and bleed off boost from the procharger basically a wastegate.. then you can run low and high boost...
That actually seems like an idea......


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In the end it's your call man. You put all the time, money, and effort into this. So the question should be what do you want out of it?
Because of all that I have been through, I really like the idea of being able to have some fun on the street. Even if that fun is just looking at the faces of people wondering what the hell is up with that Cobalt.

Street legal is what I have always wanted. I accepted that I wouldn't have A/C nor a stereo system and if I can't drive in wet weather so be it. But to never run on the street is getting really hard to wrap my head around, even if I have a quick DD Cobalt.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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That is a hard decision and only you can make it. The only way to enjoy a car like this is cursing with the wife.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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That is a hard decision and only you can make it. The only way to enjoy a car like this is cursing with the wife.
I think you mean cruising with wife and I get what you mean
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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ya honestly it would be nice to see it go as fast as possible but seriously what u've put ur wife through might as well just run the 8.5 ..really since your already so low whats the diff of 1 second like seriously besides like u said whats the point of driving with one person in a fun car (not like you'll be able to drive when its even raining lol
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Can you make that bar bolt-in/removable? So you can pull the pass. side seat and install the parts of the cage for track use, then remove it for the street?

Honestly, a 7 sec street car is a compromise anyway, trying to keep the seat makes little sense. But I understand your logic with this whole project and it's purpose, so i'm just trying to be helpful.

Or be happy with mid 8's, thats still way ******* fast...
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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......seriously what u've put ur wife through might as well just run the 8.5 ..whats the point of driving with one person in a fun car ....
QFT!
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......really since your already so low whats the diff of 1 second like seriously ....
I don't know the difference between 8 & 7 but it would be nice to find sitting in a drivers seat.

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Can you make that bar bolt-in/removable? So you can pull the pass. side seat and install the parts of the cage for track use, then remove it for the street?

Honestly, a 7 sec street car is a compromise anyway, trying to keep the seat makes little sense. But I understand your logic with this whole project and it's purpose, so i'm just trying to be helpful.

Or be happy with mid 8's, thats still way ******* fast...
I believe the rules won't allow the removeable bar setup but I will double check the rules and thanks for being helpful.

As for mid 8's being really fast, I really look forward to doing that next year.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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I don't think you will be touching the street with this car regardless unless its to load it up on a trailer so might as well go all the way...
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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I don't think you will be touching the street with this car regardless unless its to load it up on a trailer so might as well go all the way...
Exactly. Slicks on the street? Cops hassle people for that around here. This is not a cruising car. You will never be able to have a conversation...
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
I don't think you will be touching the street with this car regardless unless its to load it up on a trailer so might as well go all the way...
Your vote is duly noyed.
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Exactly. Slicks on the street? Cops hassle people for that around here. This is not a cruising car. You will never be able to have a conversation...
Well if the car was on the street I might put on the DOT d/r's that I have sitting in the garage or even buy all out street tires, somewhere around a 315-ZR
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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damn are you trying to get a 25.2 stamp? we're 25.4 and got certified with a jungle of bars but none that interfere with a secondary seat.

did something change this year with the 25.4? god i hope not

<edit> is it a situation where a removable bar won't work? i'm not sure how they are rating the necessity of this new placement if it's been ok until this point
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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one step at a time third chioce is what id go with. you can also work out alot of things with the car as you go along
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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Hey......you always, from day one, said you wanted this to be a street able car. 8.5 is stupid fast AND you still achieve your goal. In the long run i think you won't be as happy if you don't have a seat for that passenger.
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could run in the 8.5 tire class and run whatever for exhibition rounds, then keep both your seats
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
A brother of mine who runs low 10's agrees with you.

Having it be streetable is required for me to run at the 'street legal' events which is where I can get practice before I go for my NHRA lisence. Perhaps option 3 will work in the end.


I have to say that I agree with that sentiment.

On a side note, I was remembering when you first joined here you were so polite, maybe even more so than I. Reading your posts lately and I detect a more straight forward attitude from you. I am just imagining this???

That actually seems like an idea......




Because of all that I have been through, I really like the idea of being able to have some fun on the street. Even if that fun is just looking at the faces of people wondering what the hell is up with that Cobalt.

Street legal is what I have always wanted. I accepted that I wouldn't have A/C nor a stereo system and if I can't drive in wet weather so be it. But to never run on the street is getting really hard to wrap my head around, even if I have a quick DD Cobalt.

no im still nice as can be just blunt sometimes
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The way I see it, there are always going to be "cobalts" that can run faster than 7's. I.E. drag cars.

Make something that you can enjoy and show on the street.

Life's too short to only run 1/4 miles in a car.
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damn are you trying to get a 25.2 stamp? we're 25.4 and got certified with a jungle of bars but none that interfere with a secondary seat.

did something change this year with the 25.4? god i hope not

<edit> is it a situation where a removable bar won't work? i'm not sure how they are rating the necessity of this new placement if it's been ok until this point
The shop says that they just heard that this new regulation regarding the cage would be in effect for 2010. The exact stamp # I don't have but I was told the class it was for is a funny car cage.
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one step at a time third chioce is what id go with. you can also work out alot of things with the car as you go along
That is definitely an upside to going that route.

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Hey......you always, from day one, said you wanted this to be a street able car. 8.5 is stupid fast AND you still achieve your goal. In the long run i think you won't be as happy if you don't have a seat for that passenger.
That is why to make the choice to do other wise would really pain me.


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no im still nice as can be just blunt sometimes
The nice I noticed as well as the blunt. It was just an observation not critism in any way.


Originally Posted by umrdyldo
The way I see it, there are always going to be "cobalts" that can run faster than 7's. I.E. drag cars.

Make something that you can enjoy and show on the street.

Life's too short to only run 1/4 miles in a car.
I tend to agree because with the cost of all of this, only 1/4 mile at a time seems anti climatic.
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
The shop says that they just heard that this new regulation regarding the cage would be in effect for 2010. The exact stamp # I don't have but I was told the class it was for is a funny car cage.
http://www.sfifoundation.com/drag.html
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