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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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SS/SC concerns?!

I am on the verge of purchasing the Cobalt SS superchrged. I plan to get the Stage two upgrade but have two concerns. The warranty (i understand) has a deductible? how does that work and when do you have to pay a deductible? from the beginning? my second concern is over the limited slip diff.. i know its a good idea, but is it a necessity with this set up (i.e. stage 2 upgrade?). any other options that i should have or u recommend let me know and i appreciate it.. thanks a lot..
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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I am not trying to rupture your thinking, but to be honest, if i were to purchase a car again, it would not be the cobalt
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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I am not trying to rupture your thinking, but to be honest, if i were to purchase a car again, it would not be the cobalt


how come?? i am getting discounts which is what brought me to the car in the first place.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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I am on the verge of purchasing the Cobalt SS superchrged. I plan to get the Stage two upgrade but have two concerns. The warranty (i understand) has a deductible? how does that work and when do you have to pay a deductible? from the beginning? my second concern is over the limited slip diff.. i know its a good idea, but is it a necessity with this set up (i.e. stage 2 upgrade?). any other options that i should have or u recommend let me know and i appreciate it.. thanks a lot..
There is no deductible to get warranty work done. Yes you want the lsd diff as it is better all around and way expensive to put in later.
And disregard the "don't buy it comment" I Love my Cobalt SS\SC even if I removed the SC.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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yeah im pretty sure there actually is a deductable because i paid extra for and extended one with $0 deductable when i leased my ss/sc
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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you pay your deductible when you need work done to the car. for instance, if your transmission explodes, warranty will pay everything except the deductible, which is what you pay. the limited slip is nice to have, but you dont have to have it. I opted not to get it because i didnt want to pay 1800 dollars for that and seats, and i plan on building the tranny when the parts come availible. the limit slip is good if you're planning on doing autocross or drag racing but other than that theres not really any need for it.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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I would not pick the cobalt because the cobalt is not superior in any class. Performance wise, the cobalt is very quick, but not FAST. Styling wise, the Cobalt lacks interior/exterior character. And handling wise, the cobalt isnt superb either

Yes the cobalt is a great value for its price, but there is better out there

(Now some people may try to refute my statements by concluding that the cobalt has won a lot of racing events, but that is because the Cobalt class is in a horsepower lacking division. Put the cobalt up against any other car on the street and more than likely it will get beaten... unless you do a lot of work to it.)

If i were you, I'd get a miata and turbo it. Think I am kidding? www.miataturbo.net
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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yeah im pretty sure there actually is a deductable because i paid extra for and extended one with $0 deductable when i leased my ss/sc

hey how does it work? is there a deductible from the start.. seems rediculous to buy a brand new car.. then have a possible problem the second day of owning it for example, and have to pay money for them to look at it.. thats not a warranty!
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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miata? ... the only thing a miata is good for is dropping a v8 in it.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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I bought my balt about 4 months ago, all i can say is....i still love it. I have yet to have a problem with it other than pouty looks from ricers. The car is quick, its not the fastest thing on the streets, but anything i have raced with a 4/6 Cyl motor has lost hands down. The SS/SC's suspension leaves little to be desired when you cut the corners hard and use a little brake. I have friends who have dropped 10 grand into cars like 3000gt's, 944turbo's, civic's, etc. and have yet to beat me on the track. The only car i would have rather bought is a impresa WRX STI, or maybe an SRT-4 if i could have gotten one new.

BOTTOM LINE: IF I HAD TO DO IT AGAIN (trade my 99 mustang gt with pro-charger and other mods)............I WOULD STILL GET THE BALT!!!!!!!!
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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Balt is definitely a good car, although it has some weak spots. Any car does though. The only other things I would compare to it in its class would be the SRT4, New Civic Si, or the RSX-S. SRT4s are fast cars, but theyre ugly as ***** and the interior is even more lacking. Theyre what I like to refer to as the poor mans supercar. the Civic/RSX have nice styling, but the performance on the Balt is just at another level. I'm not too sure about your deductable for the car. But with a 100K mile warranty on the car, it looks even sweeter. Since you said you plan on getting the Stg. 2, I'd reccommend getting the LSD. It seems like its going to be a little more than just a quick daily driver to you, you'd want to get on it sometimes. I'd say def go with the balt with the LSD, not only will it make your car better for autox and drag, but it couldnt hurt a future trade in value either.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt_wanter
hey how does it work? is there a deductible from the start.. seems rediculous to buy a brand new car.. then have a possible problem the second day of owning it for example, and have to pay money for them to look at it.. thats not a warranty!

You got it confused... a new car warrenty you don't have to pay anything which is like 36 months/36,000 miles. You can get an extra warrenty which varies in length and milage. I have a 72 month/72,000 mile warrenty on my car with a 0 deductible. So when I was having problems with my clutch I took it in and they fixed and brought up my warrenty info and I didn't have to pay for any of the repair. If I had a $100 deductible, I would have had to pay the first 100 dollars, then they would cover the rest. Hope that helps some.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by savior
I would not pick the cobalt because the cobalt is not superior in any class. Performance wise, the cobalt is very quick, but not FAST. Styling wise, the Cobalt lacks interior/exterior character. And handling wise, the cobalt isnt superb either

Yes the cobalt is a great value for its price, but there is better out there

(Now some people may try to refute my statements by concluding that the cobalt has won a lot of racing events, but that is because the Cobalt class is in a horsepower lacking division. Put the cobalt up against any other car on the street and more than likely it will get beaten... unless you do a lot of work to it.)

If i were you, I'd get a miata and turbo it. Think I am kidding? www.miataturbo.net

first, I think the ss/sc is very superior. Faster than many v-6's and definately a lot of 4 cyl. I also get many compliments on the interior (Recaro seats) and the styling since I am one of two in my city. For the price I paid I wouldn't have chosen another car, civic si, mazdaspeed 3, etc. I got a good deal with employee discounts, rebates, etc. and I'm very content with my decision, i wouldn't trade my car for any other car in it's price range, and as for the miata.... arent we faster than the mazdaspeed miata, plus you could argue "Put a turbo in this and it will be faster", put a turbo on the ss/sc.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:41 PM
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A turbo miata would be geat for a TOY not a daily driver.I think Cobalt Wanter is looking for a new reliable daily driver with some performance and looks to go with it correct?

Savior Im just wondering do you have an SC or NA SS?
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:42 PM
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his sig just has ss
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by savior
I would not pick the cobalt because the cobalt is not superior in any class. Performance wise, the cobalt is very quick, but not FAST. Styling wise, the Cobalt lacks interior/exterior character. And handling wise, the cobalt isnt superb either

Yes the cobalt is a great value for its price, but there is better out there

(Now some people may try to refute my statements by concluding that the cobalt has won a lot of racing events, but that is because the Cobalt class is in a horsepower lacking division. Put the cobalt up against any other car on the street and more than likely it will get beaten... unless you do a lot of work to it.)

If i were you, I'd get a miata and turbo it. Think I am kidding? www.miataturbo.net

Are you on crack? The Miata is not in the Cobalts class and then you go around saying that the Cobalts class is lacking horsepower but other classes have more. Duh? If he is looking at a Cobalt he is probably looking at cars IN THAT CLASS. Only an idiot would compare cars from other classes. "oh I wouldn't get a Cobalt the GT500 has much more horsepower." Turbo miata. That's the best you can come up with? The statement I bolded is just plain ignorant. Believe it or not the Cobalt is actually quite quick as most cars are not sub 15 second cars. The Cobalt is which atleast puts it in the quicker then most catagory. Most cars are family cars, grocery getters, and children haulers and couldn't run the quartermile in 17 seconds. Again, I think you are trying to compare the cobalt to true sports cars and it can't be. If you take the Cobalt for what it is it's great. If you have unrealistic expectations of this car running with the 40k dollar sports cars of the world then you bought the wrong car and should go buy a civic so you can live in the vtec fantasy world those ignorant asses live in.

Anyway, I like my cobalt and enjoy it on a daily basis. I don't know what the heck you are talking about with a deductable for your warranty, I think somebody is jacking you around. My warranty doesn't have that. My main concern with the cobalt is that the mod bug bites hard and it's tough to stop. Seriously though I have had no problems at all. As for the LSD, I would only get it if you plan on doing some serious racing, if not save that money for mods. I didn't get the LSD and I don't miss it one bit.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:51 PM
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I would not pick the cobalt because the cobalt is not superior in any class. Performance wise, the cobalt is very quick, but not FAST. Styling wise, the Cobalt lacks interior/exterior character. And handling wise, the cobalt isnt superb either

Yes the cobalt is a great value for its price, but there is better out there

(Now some people may try to refute my statements by concluding that the cobalt has won a lot of racing events, but that is because the Cobalt class is in a horsepower lacking division. Put the cobalt up against any other car on the street and more than likely it will get beaten... unless you do a lot of work to it.)

If i were you, I'd get a miata and turbo it. Think I am kidding? www.miataturbo.net

Some people don't buy a car because they want to be faster than anyone out there. I'd much rather have a pretty quick good looking car than an 07 civic shitbox that EVERYONE and their brother, mother, and father has. I'm so sick and tired of seeing Civic after Civic, Corolla after Corolla on the road. Yeah they're good cars but holy hell...

I know that if I were to buy a new cobalt it would be because I like the way I fit in it. It turns heads. I love the way the clutch feels and the way it shifts
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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Some people don't buy a car because they want to be faster than anyone out there. I'd much rather have a pretty quick good looking car than an 07 civic shitbox that EVERYONE and their brother, mother, and father has. I'm so sick and tired of seeing Civic after Civic, Corolla after Corolla on the road. Yeah they're good cars but holy hell...
Yeah no kidding...
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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A turbo miata would be geat for a TOY not a daily driver.I think Cobalt Wanter is looking for a new reliable daily driver with some performance and looks to go with it correct?

Savior Im just wondering do you have an SC or NA SS?

You're right there.. Im looking for a daily driver i can drive in the winter still (im in Canada so the winter is a factor), but that i can also lean on and have some fun with when its time to do so.. this car is cheap in price, nice discounts, fast, looks good, etc.. So im just wondering about reliability now and is there any general concerns with the cars - which seem to be minimal so far..
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:59 PM
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with any new cars there will be some concerns... but if you dont punch it everywhere (which I don't) I don't think you would need to worry. Plus, theres a warranty there for a reason.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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You're right there.. Im looking for a daily driver i can drive in the winter still (im in Canada so the winter is a factor), but that i can also lean on and have some fun with when its time to do so.. this car is cheap in price, nice discounts, fast, looks good, etc.. So im just wondering about reliability now and is there any general concerns with the cars - which seem to be minimal so far..

Like I said I have had no problems, and I haven't heard of any big reoccuring issues with it yet. Some of the guys who are beating the daylights out of the car are having clutch and axel issues but if you don't act stupid with it you will be fine. I drive the car hard but I also am careful and I have had no problems. I also know that's the case for most here. Basically if you take care of it, it will take care of you.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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where in canada are you? i would recomend the LSD G85 diff. it helps soooooo much in the snow. that and some good snow tires. i love my car. it is FAST, and if anyone thinks 150MPH isn't fast they can go eat ****. with STG2 you'll be plenty fast. and i don't see any other cars out there dynoin more at the wheels than what the make says it has at the crank. the only thing i don't realy like is the seats. kinda hard, but if you could get one with the recaros then that problem is solved. and the warranty in canada is up to 160K km. more than enough. but test drive one and you'll see what everyone is talking about
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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Yeah, I was thinking about a tC for a while, but **** I am glad I didnt get that car. I see those everywhere now... I like the fact that I have a car that I dont see everywhere. Its fast, looks good, and has serious potential.
I've got the LSD, and I personally like it. Seems to cut down on torque steer and I think it will help if I am ever in an icy road situation. I would opt for the LSD myself, just because its only $750 on the 07's (i paid more on mine because its an 06, and I got the recaros) and if you want one later on, it'll be $1500 (thats what I have heard)

but seriously, I got my car a few months ago and I love the car. No regrets at all. I'm a little upside down on the loan, but I dont give a ****, I love the car
As for the deduction, I'm not sure if that will apply if you get an 07 with the 100,000 mile warranty. At any rate, its just something that you pay, not a lot. Its just like a deductible on insurance, the same exact thing.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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I havent had any deductables..then again, i have 22000 on my balt' and only taken it in for very minor warrenty work...the shift knob cap came off (I must be a hard shifter), and the damn sunroof button trim piece fell off. Stupid trim lol
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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where in canada are you? i would recomend the LSD G85 diff. it helps soooooo much in the snow. that and some good snow tires. i love my car. it is FAST, and if anyone thinks 150MPH isn't fast they can go eat ****. with STG2 you'll be plenty fast. and i don't see any other cars out there dynoin more at the wheels than what the make says it has at the crank. the only thing i don't realy like is the seats. kinda hard, but if you could get one with the recaros then that problem is solved. and the warranty in canada is up to 160K km. more than enough. but test drive one and you'll see what everyone is talking about
I am in the Toronto area. Just to straighten out the warranty thing... I will check again tomorrow (eventhough i have tried to date and even GM sales guys arnt sure). This is my understanding for the GM canadian warranty. The powertrain warranty is a 160 000KM. However, I heard there is a $100 deductible for any powertrain issue you have with the warranty. My first question is if thats true? My second is at what point does it come into play.. IF they expect you to pay a deduc. of 100 bones everytime you have an issue with the powertrain - thats not a warranty! Thats a cashgrab! If it only comes into play, say after 100 000 - to 160 000KM, then thats more understandable. This deductible things came from the sales MANAGER at GM a couple days back when i was in there - altho not in detail.. Im not pulling it out of thin air.. But like i said, I will talk to someone from GM tomorrow.. You guys have been very helpful and i thank everyone for their input!
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