1. Turbocharger

GT32 73 Trim - Price $ 765

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...ory_Code=GTNBB

or

T3/T4 60 Trim - $ 599

http://www.agpturbo.com/product.php?...cat=265&page=1

2. Wastegate

Tial 38 MM anywhere from $195 - $235 depending on where you buy it. Check Forums for cheaper prices but average is $200.

3. Mandrel Bent U-Bends

2.5" U Bends Mild Steel $ 24.99 each

http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/piping.html

2.5" U Bends Mild Steel $ 16 each

http://www.cartech.net/exhaustparts.htm

Use the piping to construct the downpipe and the short piping to go to the supercharger housing. Lets say you want 5 of them.

4. Hoses and Fuel Lines

http://www.paragonperformance.com/

5. Flanges

T3 Flange In between the Manifold and Turbo

I believe you'll need the 5 bolt downpipe flange - $27

http://cheapturbo.stores.yahoo.net/cuspic1.html

6. Manifold

T3 Flange Manifold w/External wastegate flange

About $195

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo...spagenameZWDVW

7. Shorter Belt...should be simple to find especially from a L61 (even though they have different ribs)

This is of course neglecting on how much fittings would cost for the oil pan and the fitting for the feed.

You could simply spend anywhere from $1200 to a couple hundred more. This is also assuming you're going to gut the blower to use it as an intake manifold and stay with the Air to Water Intercooler. I would also suggest getting the Manifold Jet Hot Coated which would cost you about $120. It's very cheap but effective.

So to those of you who thought it would be expensive, here is an example of how cheap it could be to convert over WITH quality parts.

Make more power and it could be cheap. This is just a quick example and possibility...don't take it as 100% but a round about. This is also neglecting any form of Fuel Management/Engine Management and Monitoring Devices because I'm assuming you have this already or have access to some type of tuning device.

Correction...I meant "Convert" in the title

 

interesting

 

Very nice post! I am sure this will help a lot of people that plan on going turbo! Its not as expensive as everyone makes it out to be.

 

hmmm... my setup so far
Turbonetics T-76 dual ceramic ball bearing turbo, q-trim (new) + racegate 45mm wastegate =$1100 (got friends lol)
Turbonetics Godzilla blowoff valve- $324...
2.2 alternator, Tensioner & Belt - $70
so far up to @$1500... ordering the rest of my parts this week

(not including the other motor I"m building on the side though)
as for the turbo, I got a great deal on it so I couldn't pass it up.. lists for $2400 so if anything if I can't get it to spool... sell it.. buy gt30R and call it a day.

 

I forgot the BOV.

You could buy a 2nd Gen DSM Blow Off Valve cheap...I got mine for $40

Paul, you're a ***** anyways...******* BB Turbochargers lol

 

This is what happens when you talk to adam and tell him to look up some parts for a turbo setup. He get more excited than a teenager about to lose their virginity.

 

lol.... I hope I can get the motor setup to spool the thing should be fun trying though

 

I'm new to the whole turbo vs supercharger thing but here in Colorado the turbo lag is makes the supercharger look really good. For work I drive a 6.0 turbo diesel and it takes a bit for the boost to build to get anywhere.

 

why use a 2nd gen DSM BOV? they suck ass! use a 1G BOV uncrushed they will hold 15psi all day without leaking, and if you crush it they will hold damn near anything! the 2nd gen BOV's leak like after 8 psi

 

Your also talk about a bigger turbo running higher boost for a larger displacement engine. Therefor it takes longer for it to reach peak boost.

 

Adam, you always got crazy amounts of knowledge and helpful posts, rep added.

 

there is no excitement in that my friend. Just horror and nervousness until it gets going then its just

adam you have too much time on your hands buddy. do you remember when you told me to call you and i asked why, then you responded with something like, "well sometimes i get lonely." LMFAO i would have called just because of that comment, but that was when i had nose surgery and i was hopped up on vicodin and the highness + some guy on the internet asking me to call him because he is lonely = covering my butthole in fear.

i wish i still had those pm's so i could prove that you said that, but damn i deleted em all just yesterday

 

damn, I wish i knew what you knew about turbos and stuff....great post, rep added

 

Adam you're such a turbo fanboy.

I'd go with a 1g DSM BOV too because even the 2g DSMers switch to them. I'd also go with a ball bearing turbo like a GT35R over the GT32 which I think is a journal bearing turbo? I may be wrong on that one.

 

o yeah adam ive looked into it already as i have pmed you about the turbo i should buy for my setup , im gonna get all my parts for under about 1500-2000 plus labor and thats being very generous i think i can get the parts for less

 

Still seems like alot to me... Definitely alot cheaper than a whole kit though... Very interesting...

 

Depending on your goals it's really not that bad. If you are wanting to stay in the 270hp and under range then it's not worth the money, but if you want more it's a very viable and cost effective option. For about the same money you will max out the stock eaton and be dangerously close to blowing something.

 

From my understanding, they are the same thing.

Also, not everyone would need to run a ton of boost pressure initially but if you just want to get it up and running moderate boost pressure (which could actually produce alot of power...more than some think), this is a simple change.

Maybe they aren't the same...I don't know enough about DSMs. 1st gen it is lol

I believe all the GT series turbos can come Journal or Ball Bearing.

Thanks.

 

Wow, just wow. Great work!

 

It almost makes me wish that I kept my LS and used the $12K that I put down on the SS/SC to build up the LS... nah... I just don't know enough about turbos to really be able to do all of this. I think that's why most people don't go turbo, they just don't know enough about it. A supercharger is simple when you've already got it installed... just modify key components and boom... extra power...

 

which one of the two turbos would spool faster.

 

The T3/T4 should spool faster then the GT32 series. But it depends on several things. Personally I would stick with the GT2871 or GT2876 smaller turbo than the GT32 but spools faster and is still good for 350whp. The GT2871 is the same Turbo TAG is running on there turbo kit.

 

if you crush a 1g bov, i will kick you in the ass.


stock will hold 26 psi.

 

Those ebay manifolds are absolute crap, to date other than hahn ive yet to see a quality manifold for this motor

 

The one ebay log ive seen in person was very nice quality wise

Also Adam you cant just use a l61 belt...the lsj alternator is clutched and wont spin in the opposite direction. The saab 9-3 alternator is too big dimensionally to fit in the car between the ss/sc lower intake manifold and it too round to fit in the bracket (with grinding on the alt and grinding on the lower intake manifold it may fit but its be ridiculously close.

The l61 alternator from cobalts does fot and work but mine has only run about 100 miles before mine crapped out...i just ordered a new one and and am going to have my old one rebuilt