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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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Lightbulb SS/SC Ram Air Idea! (Idea Pic Inside)

How about taking the right front fog ligh out and insterting a tube of that diameter going straight to the intake sitting in the wheel well? Since the air box or cone, whatever you have, is so close to the fron fog light location it shouldn't be too hard. Any suggestions or ideas or am i shot?

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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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This has been done already. Who did this? I can't find the post anymore. Awesome idea
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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I don't think it has, the only other one i've seen had the ram air begin in front of the radiator in the mouth of the front bumper. This would be a much better location IMO!
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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i have been doing this for a while, i only take out the fog light when i go to the track and thats all u need to do, i have the injen intake and the filter is pretty much right there....
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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That's awsome Jekyl. Honestly, do you notice a difference? Do you think it would help if all that air flowing through the foglight opening could be organized and directed to your intake? I know the more organized and directed the air is, the better.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Don't bother, it's not really going to help anything.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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I don't think it is going to help anything.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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I don't think it is going to help anything.
I agree too. I didnt even bother getting a CAI. The SC is sucking up air it dosent matter where its getting it really. Just my .02$ Still think its kool :p
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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I've had my car like this since the Fujita CAI came out. My intake when pushed to fit, would hit the back of the foglight.

So I got the idea to take the foglight out, and install a piece of fine screen over the hole. Has worked perfect for over 6months now, and my filter still stays nice and clean.

No problems in the rain or snow, but always thought about it. I think it def. helps in the winter with the really cold air. I figure it HAS to channel more air into the filter, the bumper has the perfect contour for it.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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I think this could work if you directed the air into the filter and up the intake. On my cobra I pick up about 1 mph by taking out the headlight, which rams the air through the filter and straight back into the intake. I'm not sure how the intake is shaped whether or not it would work. I wouldn't want it to rain if I did this, but for track days it could be good.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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I just found this ram air picture.


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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKSS
I agree too. I didnt even bother getting a CAI. The SC is sucking up air it dosent matter where its getting it really. Just my .02$ Still think its kool :p
I disagree, if I understand your post correctly, but the colder air from outside your engine bay makes a huge difference on a FI car.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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That Ram Air pic is sweet CTCobaltsss! I think that would be the best...and it probably weighs a tad bit less too.

But i remember reading (on that other post with the guy who created his own "ram-air" set-up) that ram-air wouldn't help us because the S/C already compresses the air, so it would be like trying to ram rammed air, or something along those lines.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 05BlackCobaltSS
That Ram Air pic is sweet CTCobaltsss! I think that would be the best...and it probably weighs a tad bit less too.

But i remember reading (on that other post with the guy who created his own "ram-air" set-up) that ram-air wouldn't help us because the S/C already compresses the air, so it would be like trying to ram rammed air, or something along those lines.
It's not so much about getting more air as it is about getting colder air. But as low as the CAI already is, it's scooping most of its air from underneath the engine bay. I don't see this having more than a minimal effect on the car, and only then if it's moving at a high speed.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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Yeah I see what everyone's saying about raming air thats kind of already being ramed by the s/c. I have to say though the setup on the black cobalt a couple threads up is a sweet ram air setup. Talk about cold air.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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I disagree, if I understand your post correctly, but the colder air from outside your engine bay makes a huge difference on a FI car.
The air is coming from the exact same spot. The filter on a CAI is a little less restrictive, that is where the power increase comes from.

As said above. Ram Air on a SC car isn't going to make a difference when you already have an effective intake system
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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i was thinking of doing the same thing w/ my 2.2 since im sporting the 2.0 front bumper. but im afraid of the rain tho. and then id have to buy an injen and get rid of my secret weapon-r.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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thats the 272 concept... it would be way to expensive to do on our cars. they had to relocate the fusebox and move stuff all around to make that airbox fit
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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i made my own... i will post a pic later
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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here ya go



got the velocity stack off ebay, went to walmart and got some 3 inch sewer tube for an rv, as it was flexible, a coupler from the hardwared store and some epoxy...... i need to get a new filter so i can hook the tube directly to it, however the tube sits right at the filter inside the fender. i also got one of the K&N wet sock things to keep water out of the filter, had no problems with it what so ever...
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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I ran my CAI into the fender well then bought a new bumper with 2 air access's to my filter. More protection in my opinion this way... Looks 10x better in my opinion too
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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i wouldn't do it
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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hmm concidering that RAM air effect doesn't work at our speed, you are waisting your time (I do believe that ram air starts t work at around 500mph, undertand here that I'm talking about RAM effect, the effect of compressing air with speed and nothing else). Most of the gain seen by "ram air" boxes, cut out etc is just an air temp diff.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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nightmare these arent aircraft and we dont have a ramjet or a scram jet attached to our cars the ram air effect does work why else would they put those big ass scoops on pro stock or an open scoop on top fuel drag cars ram air came about in the early days of ihra and nhra although it is more effective on a n/a application as forced induction creates its own small amount of ram air at low speeds but it will help out some when you are realy up n the rpms and mph

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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NightmareRacing
hmm concidering that RAM air effect doesn't work at our speed, you are waisting your time (I do believe that ram air starts t work at around 500mph, undertand here that I'm talking about RAM effect, the effect of compressing air with speed and nothing else). Most of the gain seen by "ram air" boxes, cut out etc is just an air temp diff.


Thats what I was told at trade school, but what would they know.
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