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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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ss/sc won't start

just put on ca stage three with can't tune and the car won't start. it doesn't click or spin it's just like there's no power
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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does the starter at least turn over?
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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does the starter at least turn over?
I would like to know as well. and if it does my next question is did you pull the fuel pump relay when or if you change the injectors to release the pressure in the line.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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2.7 with 42's.....

be happy it doesn't start! this time of the year with the idc's your going to have

do you have hpt? i'd assume so, your going to have to tune the car for the new set up any way, so click the key on and see what(if any) codes pop.

also, do you hear the TB do its self check? can you hear the pump kick on?
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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Ummm, did you disconnect the battery and forget to reconnect it? It happens
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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no it doesn't
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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well, what all did you install??? what happens when you put the key in and turn it?? Any lights come on or anything?
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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there is power but when you turn the key there is nothing
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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dear god, how many time am i gonna have to ask here.

do you hear the TB self test? (it'll click)

you hear the pump turn on?
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 06black
dear god, how many time am i gonna have to ask here.

do you hear the TB self test? (it'll click)

you hear the pump turn on?
what he said.....



what all did you disconnect?? When you turn the key, what lights come on?? Does the security light stay on?
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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the security light is on
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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did you get a new pcm from cobalt addiction or anything???
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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i dunno if theres a way to check it, but make sure the bracket for the clutch engagement switch isn't broken or out of place. If the engagement switch isn't pushed by the pedal it won't let your car start. I actually had my clutch disengagment switch bracket break, and my cruise control wouldn't engage afterwards because it figure the clutch was always engaged. Try pushing as really hard down on the clutch when starting, make sure theres no carpet bunched up in the way.

Also, check and see if all of your fuses and battery connection are tight. I bumped the fuel injector relay and it came loose somehow and my car wouldn't start afterwards.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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i did get a new pcm
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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you need to relearn the theft system....

put the key in, and to the run position....let the key sit on for about 10 mintues until the security light turns off. Turn the key off, sit for 5 seconds, then turn the key on for 10 miutes until the light goes off....then repeat again for the third time....turn the key off, and it should start
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 19transam81
i did get a new pcm
well god dam son, dident you think that was some important info for us?

you need a CASE relearn done to start the car.

rite now the car is checking for matching VIN's across its parts and its not getting the "OK" thus the not starting.

if you dont have HPT you'll have to take it to a dealer.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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he doesn't have to take it to the dealer.....he needs to relearn the key to the pcm. He can do it how I said to in the post above yours
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunburst_SS
you need to relearn the theft system....

put the key in, and to the run position....let the key sit on for about 10 mintues until the security light turns off. Turn the key off, sit for 5 seconds, then turn the key on for 10 miutes until the light goes off....then repeat again for the third time....turn the key off, and it should start
Thats some good need to know information, i'm suprised they wouldn't have given instructions with the new pcm.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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is this because there PCM's are VIN-less?

if its coded with a different VIN the re-learn is the only way.

good info none the less.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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had a buddy use another guys intense PCM for a while.....they had different vin #'s programmed on them. But the PCM worked fine after the theft system re-learn was performed.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunburst_SS
had a buddy use another guys intense PCM for a while.....they had different vin #'s programmed on them. But the PCM worked fine after the theft system re-learn was performed.
intersing, that dam tricky VAT system.

good info!
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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yea, I guess when the TDM sees a new module it has to talk to...the procedure needs to be done to establish communication or whatever....
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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Hey o6black why dont you take your turbo balt to brighton and fix it for him
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerBee
Hey o6black why dont you take your turbo balt to brighton and fix it for him
i'd help him out if it wasent 10:30 on a sat and i'm still doing chem 257 hw
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 19transam81
just put on ca stage three with can't tune and the car won't start. it doesn't click or spin it's just like there's no power
Did you fix it yet?
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