I'm looking into getting a stage 1 and getting a guy i know to tune it for me. i just wanted to know if there a noticeable feel in power for those who have the stage 1 kit

thanks

 

Waste of money.

 

just go straight to stage 2 man, you wont regret it, plus your friends tune

 

Yeah, just go right to the stage 2.

 

If you have someone to tune you, you can do better for less money by just buying a Nates pulley, a belt and some injectors.

...Asuming, of course, that this guy can do a good job of tuning Balts.

 

don't really need that either, just buy the parts seperate, when you buy the stage kits your paying for a tune, since you already have someone to do it for you all you need is a smaller belt, pulley, and larger injectors.

 

^^ yah thats actually a better idea, unless your worried about warranty. If you are, stick with stage 2 JUST IN CASE

 

Dude, tuning will void your warranty anyway, if they check it.

Yea, what he said. lol

 

prolly not as obvious, but owell

 

Well, yea. It's a lot harder to re-press on a factory pulley.

 

aproxx how much would the belt,pulley and injectors cost me????

nm found it http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...9-P1540C0.aspx

 

thats why you get the 4 bolt pattern from nate

 

It really depends. How small of a pulley are you going to want to go to in the long run? You kinda need to plan ahead on that one. That will tell you the injector size you need. The belt is not that much and Nate is really reasonable as far as pulleys go. A LOT of people on here have them.

 

They have no way of checking if you are tuned. redline would be the only give away.

you don't need a shorter belt either just a larger idler gates 38009 $20. Nates pulley system. And some fuel injectors from http://www.cobaltperformanceparts.co..._Set_of_4.html

And a tune from your buddy.$100 for the credits. I can send you a base tune and adjust from there.

You arn't saving much money and voiding the warranty if they want to be dicks. I would just get the stage II from crate engine depot for $550.

 

Sorry to correct you, but they can tell if you've written to the PCM.

 

Just wondering how they could tell as far as all they can pull from the pcm is the calibration # and the operating system #. Maybe I am wrong and you can enlighten me.

 

Well, if I am wrong, I would love to know for sure, as I have a couple of people holding off on tuning due to warranty concerns. It was my impression that HPT left a footprint of sorts behind and that even if you were to flash back to stock, they can tell. This is strickly heresay, but fairly reliable heresay. I personally have never had a car that I have tuned go in for warranty service (that I know of).

 

The dealer can't tell Possibly if they send the pcm to gm and have the whole thing down loaded and checked. They wouldn't bother. I have had my car in and they even reflashed it with an updated flash and didn't know. Of corse I had to retune it but they didn't have a clue.

 

good to know. I just looked over at the HPT forums and the common understanding there is that tune = bye bye warranty.

 

who has the stage 1 on here and is happy with it??????

 

doubt anyone just has stage 1...it's a waste.

 

just get stage 2.. warranty is still there if your concerned about that and you get more power out of it.

 

stage 1 and stage 2 tune are the same right?

 

Yes. The tune is the same.

 

What he said^^