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stage 2 and 3 clutch from turbo tech the same?

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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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stage 2 and 3 clutch from turbo tech the same?

i was just on thier site and noticed that the stage 2 and 3 clutch are the exact same price, now if the stage 3 can hold more power or is stronger then the stage 2 who would buy the stage 2 instead of 3?? im not too good with cars but i was thinking of doing some supporting mods this spring before i hit the hp mods and im looking at doing clutch, axles,ingalls etc. can someone help me out with info on the clutch? does your car need certain mods to have a stage 3 clutch?
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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Well first off, what brand clutch are you looking at? Turbotech sells a couple different brands. What HP range are looking to be in with you final mods?
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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there both spec stage 2 and 3 clutch... im aiming for about 300hp but that wont be for at least another year-year and a half, i just wanna make the thing strong and give it all the supporting mods it needs before i get in those hp numbers or close to them.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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there both spec stage 2 and 3 clutch... im aiming for about 300hp but that wont be for at least another year-year and a half, i just wanna make the thing strong and give it all the supporting mods it needs before i get in those hp numbers or close to them.
If you're shooting for 300hp, go stage 3. Stage 3 is a little harder for daily driving but it will hold up with that power.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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I would avoid Spec all together if that's the case. Go with the Exedy Stage 3 or ClutchMasters FX300 or FX400 one.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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wow why is the exedy stage 3 clutch like more than double the price?? can it hold like 1000hp?? do i really need one that expensive to hold 300hp?
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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The Exedy is expensive because it includes a Flywheel. If 300ish is your goal, I would try Exedy.

I have a Spec 3+ w/ Flywheel and it works great. But people are having problems with almost every clutch.

As far as the prices being the same, you might be looking at the "+" stages or maybe getting the 2.2 and 2.0 confused. If they are the same price though, obviously get the Stage 3.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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The exedy unit comes with a flywheel as well. Exedy also has a reputation for superior products that do not fail. I haven't heard to many good things about Spec at all. I had to work with Clutchmasters when I bought my clutch since there were some issues with it, but they have totally redesigned the pressure plate because of my problems, and it works awesome! Clutchmasters makes an awesome product and stands behind it. I would buy it again if I had to.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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ok cool i guess ill just search around some more before my final decision, but its not too bad if it comes with flywheel too...whats more important, clutch or axles. i know there both importand but i mean to do first, i was thinking axles but ive read that clutch is best first, and obviously wheel hop prevention, but thats coming in spring no matter what i do first.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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Well, you can technically still drive with a bad clutch, but you sure as hell can't with broken axles.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Well, you can technically still drive with a bad clutch, but you sure as hell can't with broken axles.
When your clutch does go, those shiney new axles won't be worth a damn! I guess your damned if you do, and damned if you don't!
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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What's so bad about Spec? Do they make crumby clutches? I have a stage 2 from them (not installed yet, waiting for my stock p.o.s. to go first) but I got an amazing deal on it.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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well i was going to stay away from exedy totally because its not for street use now u guys are saying to get it???? wtf lol

alright im going to have like 400-450 horse in the future so cm fx400 or exedy

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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CbYellowSS
well i was going to stay away from exedy totally because its not for street use now u guys are saying to get it???? wtf lol

alright im going to have like 400-450 horse in the future so cm fx400 or exedy

sorry to threadjack crossed over
dont worry i dont mind im curious to see the answers to these questions anyway. i know by the end of this thread ill be more confused than when i started cause everyone will suggest something different just like the other threads, i always end up undecided by the end

one other thing...this car is a daily driver so i dont wanna be totally uncomfortable, i dont mind if its mild discomfort but i hope its not gunna be a bumpy ass ride after all this.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Not only that, but the higher tq holding clutches use diifferent materials....Don't they wear out faster in daily driving than say a stage 2 clutch? I thought those race clutches couldn't handle heat that well.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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A beefier clutch will take a little more finesse to be smooth, but it'll just take a couple days and you'll be fine. You may also have a tired left leg the first couple days too if you drive in heavy traffic. I absolutely love my FX300, and I would not turn back to the stock feel ever!
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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If your goal is 400+, I don't think the Exedy will be strong enough. Some people have problems with Spec, some don't. Like I said, my spec 3+ is like a dream, but I haven't used slicks with it yet.

Others are saying CM's are perfect, at the same time I have seen first hand of the problems CM gave us.

If your goal is 400+ whp, I would say Spec 3+ or CM FX400.

I have driven both the Spec 3+ and CM FX400 6 puck. Both are easily daily drivers.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by memphisr24
Not only that, but the higher tq holding clutches use diifferent materials....Don't they wear out faster in daily driving than say a stage 2 clutch? I thought those race clutches couldn't handle heat that well.
i hope your not right cause the last thing i need is to spend all kinds of money and have this clutch wear out from daily driving...


yeah i dont mind having to get used to a clutch anyway, when i went from my 2.2 to this car i thought it was crazy...now i dont even feel the difference at all, im totally used to it.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Well i'm asking that question because that's what i've heard. I may have heard wrong though but from what I have heard, they can take dumps, but can't handle the heat that well. Liek if you keep slipping the clutch in traffic. But i'm hoping i'm wrong with this.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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yeah that would definately suck if that was the case man... does anybody know the answer to this?
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by memphisr24
Well i'm asking that question because that's what i've heard. I may have heard wrong though but from what I have heard, they can take dumps, but can't handle the heat that well. Liek if you keep slipping the clutch in traffic. But i'm hoping i'm wrong with this.
Check out what they have to say on the EVO forums. From what I read, all of them love theirs.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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oh i dont doubt they they dont love thier clutches,im sure thier clutches are amazingbut i just wanna make sure it really doesnt wear out on daily driving use thats all... if i spend top dollar on it i wanna make sure it works under my driving conditions cause i dont wanna build a race car, i still want it as a daily driver.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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I thought the price differences was the longevity of the clutch.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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I don't know....a fwd 400-450 whp cobalt is not the best daily driver lol. Especially if that's done with a supercharger, i'd like to see that thing drive in the snow lol. I plan on hitting 280-290 whp on the stock supercharger and i'm done for a while. Might move on to an 04 ls1 gto and sts turbo that ****
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Isn't CenterForce suppose to have a clutch out for us soon?
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