Stage Ii Let Me Down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Could your clutch be slipping?
A good portion of the extra hp comes from the increased redline. In that case, the car won't feel any quicker, you will just be able to hold it in each gear a bit longer. What you do feel is the increase in torque, which isn't nearly as much as hp.
A good portion of the extra hp comes from the increased redline. In that case, the car won't feel any quicker, you will just be able to hold it in each gear a bit longer. What you do feel is the increase in torque, which isn't nearly as much as hp.
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Originally Posted by 03gobluecobra
Could your clutch be slipping?
A good portion of the extra hp comes from the increased redline. In that case, the car won't feel any quicker, you will just be able to hold it in each gear a bit longer. What you do feel is the increase in torque, which isn't nearly as much as hp.
A good portion of the extra hp comes from the increased redline. In that case, the car won't feel any quicker, you will just be able to hold it in each gear a bit longer. What you do feel is the increase in torque, which isn't nearly as much as hp.
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Originally Posted by Fingersmoran
Andrew buddy thanks for the advice and support. Im diffenetly going to go out there Aug 4th and many more times to practice. I am also going to try these spark plugs that some people have been recomending.
and remember - there's only 7 more street legal nights this season, so take advantage of em!!
as far as the plugs go, no harm in trying them and experimenting,
but I also tried one step colder plugs and it made no measureable difference with these current levels of mods.
so I just gap the stockers to 035....
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I agree with some of the guys that it's probably you and not the car. There is nothing wrong with that either. It takes practice to get good and the launch in a FWD car is especially difficult. Just keep practicing and I am sure you will see those times come down. Good luck to you and keep your head up. It will all work out.
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Do the people that keep speaking as if there is no added power until 6,500-7,000rpm even have Stage 2?
It makes more power from 2-7,000rpm and it is very obvious vs a stock SS/SC not just a slight gain.
And a shitty 60ft time isn't to blame here, unless it was like 3.10 seconds.
I ran a 13.9 with a 2.31 60ft with Stage 2 being my only mod. It was 91 degrees and no one could hook worth a damn so I only made one pass.
It makes more power from 2-7,000rpm and it is very obvious vs a stock SS/SC not just a slight gain.
And a shitty 60ft time isn't to blame here, unless it was like 3.10 seconds.
I ran a 13.9 with a 2.31 60ft with Stage 2 being my only mod. It was 91 degrees and no one could hook worth a damn so I only made one pass.
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Originally Posted by Fingersmoran
I thought geez a 30-40 horse power boost from the stage ii kit i should diffenetly notice a difference.
So I went back to the same race track, this time with my mods all done, I was eager to see what she would do now. After three tries at the 1/4 mile, the best time i could muster up was 14.7 a@ 96.95. I couldnt believe it, all the right stuff done to my car and virtually no improvement. I read somewhere that this stage kit was supposed to improve my 1/4 mile time by 7 tenths of a second. All I got was an extra half a mile and hour. Both my visits to the race track the temperature was simular, i had the same amount of gas in my car and no extra weight, infact i took out my spare tire during the second visit to the track.
So my questions are to all you stage ii owners,
1) What kind of gains did you all see??
2) Is it possible my computer wasn't reprogramed right at the dealership durring the stage ii set up?3) Is my stock exhaust system restricting all that new power?
4) Is there something GM performance group can do to help me out?
So I went back to the same race track, this time with my mods all done, I was eager to see what she would do now. After three tries at the 1/4 mile, the best time i could muster up was 14.7 a@ 96.95. I couldnt believe it, all the right stuff done to my car and virtually no improvement. I read somewhere that this stage kit was supposed to improve my 1/4 mile time by 7 tenths of a second. All I got was an extra half a mile and hour. Both my visits to the race track the temperature was simular, i had the same amount of gas in my car and no extra weight, infact i took out my spare tire during the second visit to the track.
So my questions are to all you stage ii owners,
1) What kind of gains did you all see??
2) Is it possible my computer wasn't reprogramed right at the dealership durring the stage ii set up?3) Is my stock exhaust system restricting all that new power?
4) Is there something GM performance group can do to help me out?
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS313
mine stops at 6500 and then spikes up to 253 at the redline and i dont know y though, can someone tell me.
DONT know why but the point of the dyno is to help look at shift points. judging by this dyno you should shift at 5500 to 6000 rpm. you time would be better since your in the meaty part of the torque curve. try it. then try 5500. see what happens with your times.
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Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
Its the driver, not the car. Not anyone can just goto the track with a stick and run amazing times. Do you have your timeslips for both times???? If so, then pull the best timeslip from each day. Whats the 60ft and trap speed of each?? then we can tell you whats wrong.
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Originally Posted by ssnipes
DONT know why but the point of the dyno is to help look at shift points. judging by this dyno you should shift at 5500 to 6000 rpm. you time would be better since your in the meaty part of the torque curve. try it. then try 5500. see what happens with your times.
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From: Virginia Beach . Virginia
Originally Posted by cashstacker
I got a cel when I was running lean.
Aren't they the Solid Emmissons CEL for
P0171 Fuel Trim System Lean -PCM
P0172 Fuel Trim System Rich -PCM
I know in the past when i got my car tuned i did get a CEL when my system was rich. My GF had a CEL for Lean code on her SS after her AEM intake.
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Well before jumping all over the technicalities of things, what month did you run your baseline ET vs. your track time now? You're in Vancouver so I wouldn't suspect the temperature to be a huge difference as well as humidity, but you still have to account for those things. Do you know what the DA was for both trips to the track?
How was the track prepped? Did you get any wheel hop? Any tire spin? What was your 1/8th mile in your baseline run vs. your stage 2 run?
How was the track prepped? Did you get any wheel hop? Any tire spin? What was your 1/8th mile in your baseline run vs. your stage 2 run?
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Two words "Shift Light"
If you even "nudge" the rev-limter on these cars- your ETs will skyrocket!
So get a shift light and mess around to find the right setting for YOU to get those shifts in after 6800 but before 6950 and your times will go down.
OR
Find someone in your area with HP Tuners and adjust the rev limter to 7400 or 7500 and start "inching up" your shift point into the 7100-7200 zone. (Lot's of people are doing it without issue)Some additional timing advance wouldnt hurt either.
With the 3.0" Stage 2 you STILL wont be too lean, in fact, depending on your altitude you can likely go down to a 2.8 (maybe 2.7?) and still achieve about 11.9-12.2:1 (unless your're in - sea level air density) Which is in the ballpark to make the best power on the LSJ
Good Luck and HAve Fun
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If you even "nudge" the rev-limter on these cars- your ETs will skyrocket!
So get a shift light and mess around to find the right setting for YOU to get those shifts in after 6800 but before 6950 and your times will go down.
OR
Find someone in your area with HP Tuners and adjust the rev limter to 7400 or 7500 and start "inching up" your shift point into the 7100-7200 zone. (Lot's of people are doing it without issue)Some additional timing advance wouldnt hurt either.
With the 3.0" Stage 2 you STILL wont be too lean, in fact, depending on your altitude you can likely go down to a 2.8 (maybe 2.7?) and still achieve about 11.9-12.2:1 (unless your're in - sea level air density) Which is in the ballpark to make the best power on the LSJ
Good Luck and HAve Fun
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Originally Posted by Tofu
Well before jumping all over the technicalities of things, what month did you run your baseline ET vs. your track time now? You're in Vancouver so I wouldn't suspect the temperature to be a huge difference as well as humidity, but you still have to account for those things. Do you know what the DA was for both trips to the track?
How was the track prepped? Did you get any wheel hop? Any tire spin? What was your 1/8th mile in your baseline run vs. your stage 2 run?
How was the track prepped? Did you get any wheel hop? Any tire spin? What was your 1/8th mile in your baseline run vs. your stage 2 run?
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Originally Posted by Fingersmoran
Its Vancouver dude, we dont have humidity. The temperature was identical in both runs.
That's funny because according to the weather network Vancouver is at a 60% humidity level today..
If the car feels quicker than it did before the stage kit and you aren't experiencing any driveability problems on top of not getting any CEL's then I would have to agree with everyone else and say you just need some more seat time.
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Originally Posted by Tofu
That's funny because according to the weather network Vancouver is at a 60% humidity level today..
If the car feels quicker than it did before the stage kit and you aren't experiencing any driveability problems on top of not getting any CEL's then I would have to agree with everyone else and say you just need some more seat time.
If the car feels quicker than it did before the stage kit and you aren't experiencing any driveability problems on top of not getting any CEL's then I would have to agree with everyone else and say you just need some more seat time.
But myu point is the the weather was close to the same. Vancouver is known for mild weather.
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Originally Posted by Fingersmoran
Its Vancouver dude, we dont have humidity. The temperature was identical in both runs.
I've been there and it rains about 1/2 the time!
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Originally Posted by Fingersmoran
I apologize, i used to live in ontario where in the summer the humidity was 85-100%.
But myu point is the the weather was close to the same. Vancouver is known for mild weather.
But myu point is the the weather was close to the same. Vancouver is known for mild weather.
I just wanted to be sure it wasn't the weather/temp that was throwing off your times vs. something mechanical or driver related.
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From: Hubert NC
I have a K&N air filter and a 3 inch pulley. I noticed the car was sluggish until I changed out the plugs and gapped them smaller, .040. Change your gap and see if that helps. Launch technique will play a big role at the track, but as far as general driving goes it's a mute point. If you're feeling a difference in your day to day driving that would rule out your launch at the track and narrow it down to the car. Unless you've already regapped your plugs, then have fun learning.
