2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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looks like someone found the limit so to speak
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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i wanna know whats happening lol
i dont know much about the issue but i wanna learn
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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oven effect from air stacking


im not sure if anyone would catch this or not
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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I don't want to get too much into it because it isn't my car to do so...

But with 10:1 pistons and 272's, he was only able to get about 8-9* timing out of the 2.75 without meth. My old Cobalt with just 500 dollars into it ran better times. Needless to say, the car was slower than when he had the M62. These car like timing more than boost.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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well, that explains why my cars decently quick. lol
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
well, that explains why my cars decently quick. lol
There is a stock pullied car around here with a tweak tuned running an ass ton of timing. Pulls pretty hard for stock.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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cool
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by WSFrazier
I don't want to get too much into it because it isn't my car to do so...

But with 10:1 pistons and 272's, he was only able to get about 8-9* timing out of the 2.75 without meth. My old Cobalt with just 500 dollars into it ran better times. Needless to say, the car was slower than when he had the M62. These car like timing more than boost.
interesting statement
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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definitely interesting statement indeed. That does explain alot of things though.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
gmr cams > 272
You never did try cam gears, did you?
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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i never had a desire to try and play with a turbo cam vis cam gears in a blower car. it cost me less to swap cams than to get the gmpp cam gears.

plus, the valve cover gasket being 55 bucks a pop. it doesn't appeal to me to pull the cover every time, check the torque on the three bolts or to adjust them for different conditions.

im a simple person. simplistic things last longer
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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You never did try cam gears, did you?
lol last person i know to use adjustable cam gear = almost dead car

area? u hear about that?
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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i never had a desire to try and play with a turbo cam vis cam gears in a blower car. it cost me less to swap cams than to get the gmpp cam gears.

plus, the valve cover gasket being 55 bucks a pop. it doesn't appeal to me to pull the cover every time, check the torque on the three bolts or to adjust them for different conditions.

im a simple person. simplistic things last longer

this being the main reason i took the money i had to rebuild my engine again and decided to get a civic with a b series motor
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
i never had a desire to try and play with a turbo cam vis cam gears in a blower car. it cost me less to swap cams than to get the gmpp cam gears.

plus, the valve cover gasket being 55 bucks a pop. it doesn't appeal to me to pull the cover every time, check the torque on the three bolts or to adjust them for different conditions.

im a simple person. simplistic things last longer
....you repalce the gasket everytime you pull the valve cover? u know its a reusable gasket right?

i am losing faith in your area
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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plus, the valve cover gasket being 55 bucks a pop. it doesn't appeal to me to pull the cover every time, check the torque on the three bolts or to adjust them for different conditions.

About that... I've had an idea to modify a spare cover I have laying around, to allow for quick adjustments on the dyno....

... with that said... I'm a experimental person.... I like to tinker...
Plus I figured, I've got the cams... I'd might as well run them for a while, until I figure where I'm going with the car.... then get a good set of full blower grinds done.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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the cover has a habit of leaking after you pull it 5 times in a weekend. yes it is reusable. to a degree.

twzt. yepo. i knew about it when he pulled the cover.

omega. good luck with that one. flinging oil is amusing
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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... not with the car running...

It would be a simple mod to allow the side to be pulled off between dyno runs, while car can be shut off.

It would not be a daily driver mod... but a cam tuning mod, only.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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what is really needed to be done, even with stock cams is to degree them.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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Seriously dude, every time i hear news about your car, be it good, bad, or just news... i want to drop my turbo setup and go HTV like no other.

On a serious note, you think i could see about 315+whp on a 2.75" on a 8.9:1 compression?
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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looking for some advice here seeing how this topic involves cams,... JBP sells cams for the 2.4 and within the next year or so im looking to go turbo... should i get these cams and will they set me up properly for boost, or should i get them then have them reground?
any help is help...
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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you don't need to change cams with a 2.4. you have infinatly adjustable cams
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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buuuuut i thought the 2.0s were vvt tooo? and still yet why make cams if they are adjustable? is the adjustment in HPT?
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 24SSNighthawk
buuuuut i thought the 2.0s were vvt tooo? and still yet why make cams if they are adjustable? is the adjustment in HPT?
Not the LSJ...
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sw4y1313
Seriously dude, every time i hear news about your car, be it good, bad, or just news... i want to drop my turbo setup and go HTV like no other.

On a serious note, you think i could see about 315+whp on a 2.75" on a 8.9:1 compression?
i made more than that on the 2.75 with meth i just never posted.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
i made more than that on the 2.75 with meth i just never posted.
Yeah but my compression is a bit lower then yours. I know you made what 313whp without meth? Hows the blower run with a pulley smaller then a 2.75. I know you ran a 2.5 but i could run say a 2.6 or 2.65 and make about ~335whp? Or do you think I would see the same issues you speak of here as you have with the 2.5? I wonder if the added displacement might help a bit with the heat(less pressure)?
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