i hear people fighting on here and the .com sight. would it really be better to remove the sc and put a descent sized turbo on the car? any one done this to there car and whats the difference in the cars overall feeling? does it lag in low end bad? and also if it is a good way to go who makes a good kit for it?

 

It's actually boils down to this,

Turbo = more overall HP and TQ but less desirable drivability due to lag on the street.

SC = Instant power and TQ but limited in ultimate HP potential do to parasitic drag on the engine and heat created by the inefficient air compression

Doing both = nitemare and a waste of time! (my opinion)

If mine wasn't a lease, i'd push the stock combo to the limits, then remove the SC and go a single turbo and demonstrate it's potential

 

if you pick the correct turbo to match the engine there will be no noticable lag at all, certain turbos can have boost at 2000 rpm thats almost instant

 

but then you will have no high end...... ^

 

its all in the tuning and picking the correct parts, it can be done

 

i rather stick with my SC rather then a turbo but thats just me

 

yea i see wayyyyy too many turbos down all the time...

 

id rather have turbo boost at 3000 rpms so i can get a decent start without spinnin hard

 

It would cost a lot more to lose the supercharger and go with a turbo than it would to just upgrade your current system.

 

Yeah but even if the turbo that replaces the supercharger produces the same hp, the torque will be incredibly higher. SRT4 has 250lbs!!!! I wish we had that.

 

I thinking of upgrading the stock system and once warrenty is done switch to turbo unless theres a wicked S/C system to go with.

 

SRT also has a half litre more displacement which we know is the best way to find Torque

 

if you look at the real high end drag cars (funny cars) for instance the super chargers is the way for them, maybe not all but most because of the instant power and the 18inch spoons that pump out more than 50psi to have upwards of 6000hp

 

turbo chargers are also banned in many of the high end drag classes and some other racing circuits also.

 

I think its gonna take more than the M62 blower to make these cars really fast supercharged . At that point I think the turbo's will start popping up over the m90 swaps ....jmo . How much of size difference is there between a M62 to a M90 to a M112 . That M62 looks kinda stuffed in there as it is .

Its all in the tune brotha , there are a plenty that run better than you could ever imagine

 

The M90 is too large to fit. The best solution would be a twin screw S/C like a whipple or Jackson. Lower temps outlet and can spin much faster.

 

you see tho those high end drag cars that run super chargers are alos rear wheel drive and have slicks. having all the instant tq in a front wheel drive blows nuts cause you wont grip and your tryin to pull the wieght of the car thats why id like to go to a turbo. something that will let me get off the line with little or no spin and spool up and stomp an srt. if i can find a decent street condition at a stop light i can sometimes beat the srt stop light to stop light which is like 1/8 mile. but i usually cant keep it from spinning to damn much

 

Couldn't us 2.0L guys use the turbo system from the 2.2L turbo when it is released...I would be interested in trying this since our blocks are pretty much the same....

 

get a different intake and it should work with little modification

 

Or...Just gut the S/C, so you won't have to worry about the tb...

 

No sell the S/C, and buy a new intake. Or make an adapter to use the stock IC.

 

it also has more displacement -> 2.4L

 

^^^^ Yeah, the torque is mostly due to displacement. 2.0L vs. 2.4L is a huge difference.

So why do all of you believe that turbos can make more power than a supercharger. I am no forced induction expert, but someone please prove this to me, because I am calling B.S. on that claim. If turbos were more effective, then why the hell would anyone use superchargers (especially considering cars like the SLR McLaren or Ford GT that use superchargers)?

The bottom line is that turbos and superchargers each have advantages and disadvantages. Personally, I prefer a supercharger due to their greater reliability and consistent throttle application. Plus, you have something that most other cars don't. Everyone has a freaking turbo!

Also, why is it that everyone cites powerloss from supercharges as being a major problem? A belt running of the crankshaft does not eat much power. Also, the restricitve exhaust piping used to direct exhaust flow into a turbo also eats power, so it is unfair to claim that only superchargers rob power!

 

Good job I thought I was the only one, J/K. To create energy your gonna have to use some. Turbos are no exceptions, especially the large ones. Besides I love the sound of a blower vice a turbo. Its gotta be doin something right, cause alot of us can outrun an SRT4 1st-3rd (1-100 mph) thats basically a 1/4 mile.

 

ya my friend has an srt when it had like 2 small mods i could get him from 0- 80 after that i noticed him catching by 95 (right before i shift to 4th from 100mph) he would be nose to nose with me when in 4th he would be gone. i just wish my car would do a 30mph - 130 faster