TVS Build up.
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TVS Build up.
Ok so i just wanted to make a post to get everyones feed back on how my car should run and stuff i should get next. So my current mods are
2.8" on the M62
60lb fuel injectors
Devils Own Meth kit with the 3gph nozzle
CA Heat exchanger.
2 Step Colder Spark Plugs
Ingalls Torque Dampener
Injen Cold Air Intake
I just ordered the following and will be arriving between 1-3 weeks from now.
Cobalt SS/TC Boost Gauge
Harrop TVS Supercharger (stock pulley)
Clear Image 4 into 1 header
3" downpipe with high flow cat
3" catback exhaust
TTR Solid Upper Engine Mount
OTTP Rotated Tranny Mount
I plan on changing the meth kit to a 5gph nozzle and change the mix from 50/50 to 75 meth/25 water.
I wanna hit 300whp and get my 1/4 mile times in the low 13's. I'm currently at 243hp 219trq. Tune isnt the best so thats why the numbers are low. Also the dyno was set for a really messed up altitude. So corrected its 251whp. I went to the track friday for the first time ever, ran a 14.4 @ 103mph. I currently have a issue with my tune at 3500rpm which caused my launches to suck but that will be changed once i get re-tuned.
So i want some feed back of what you guys think. Also how long do you think it will be until A. #4 piston goes boom and B. how long it takes till the axle snaps? Next summer (if it doesnt blow before then i want to work on engine internals.
Heres some pics of the progress so far.
What my car looks like.
Dyno Results
Torque Dampener
2.8 and 60's
M62 taken off, ready for the TVS. And yes there is a flashlight on the left side to hold the belt up incase you were wondering.
inside of the M62
CA Heat Exchanger
Heat Exchanger on the car.
Devils Own Meth Kit.
2.8" on the M62
60lb fuel injectors
Devils Own Meth kit with the 3gph nozzle
CA Heat exchanger.
2 Step Colder Spark Plugs
Ingalls Torque Dampener
Injen Cold Air Intake
I just ordered the following and will be arriving between 1-3 weeks from now.
Cobalt SS/TC Boost Gauge
Harrop TVS Supercharger (stock pulley)
Clear Image 4 into 1 header
3" downpipe with high flow cat
3" catback exhaust
TTR Solid Upper Engine Mount
OTTP Rotated Tranny Mount
I plan on changing the meth kit to a 5gph nozzle and change the mix from 50/50 to 75 meth/25 water.
I wanna hit 300whp and get my 1/4 mile times in the low 13's. I'm currently at 243hp 219trq. Tune isnt the best so thats why the numbers are low. Also the dyno was set for a really messed up altitude. So corrected its 251whp. I went to the track friday for the first time ever, ran a 14.4 @ 103mph. I currently have a issue with my tune at 3500rpm which caused my launches to suck but that will be changed once i get re-tuned.
So i want some feed back of what you guys think. Also how long do you think it will be until A. #4 piston goes boom and B. how long it takes till the axle snaps? Next summer (if it doesnt blow before then i want to work on engine internals.
Heres some pics of the progress so far.
What my car looks like.
Dyno Results
Torque Dampener
2.8 and 60's
M62 taken off, ready for the TVS. And yes there is a flashlight on the left side to hold the belt up incase you were wondering.
inside of the M62
CA Heat Exchanger
Heat Exchanger on the car.
Devils Own Meth Kit.
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My IAT2s with the M62 would hit 140s after one pull.. After 5 sucessive pulls with the tvs it got to 151...
I think you'll be fine if you use some common sense..
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well my mods are in my sig and on a mustang dyno wich reads 11% lower than a dynojet i made 290 whp and 250 whtq now add in the 11% and that would be 322 whp and 277 whtq . Thats with about 2 hrs of tuning. Now i got a smaller pulley( 75 mm ) and meth and i hoping to gain another 25 whp, ill keep everyone informed.
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You will enjoy the TVS very much I have been running it a little over a month and love it!
As far as the engine going boom it will not. Make sure your tune is spot on and you do not do back to back to back to back pulls and it will live MUCH longer than anticipated The stock axles I would upgrade in the near future. I went with the OTT Stage 1 axles and they are doing the job very nicely!
I am running 80# Injectors and a 2.9", OTT H/E and stu's cooling mod are my ONLY cooling mods and on a 90 degree day a 1-3 pull(1/4) I will see about 145-150 TOPS!!! No methanol, no aftermarket intake manifold.
As far as the engine going boom it will not. Make sure your tune is spot on and you do not do back to back to back to back pulls and it will live MUCH longer than anticipated The stock axles I would upgrade in the near future. I went with the OTT Stage 1 axles and they are doing the job very nicely!
I am running 80# Injectors and a 2.9", OTT H/E and stu's cooling mod are my ONLY cooling mods and on a 90 degree day a 1-3 pull(1/4) I will see about 145-150 TOPS!!! No methanol, no aftermarket intake manifold.
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cost vs benefit you wouldnt have a tvs naaaawz bro. I think the Single pass is worth it from testimonies I don't think anyone has any stats with only single pass?
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dual pass is the way to go, i have a front mount h/e and dual pass, and my intake manifold is the same if not slightly cooler than stu's car with his cooling mod.
you sir are very wrong. Those numbers are unacceptably high, especially with meth.
you sir are very wrong. Those numbers are unacceptably high, especially with meth.
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are any of you guys running meth. I found my IAT dropped extreamly low once i put the meth kit on. Should be good enough for now. But ill keep you guys updated.
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dual pass, and if you have the dough, single pass are the best cooling mods in my opinion, they drastically increase the efficiency of our intake manifold. Honestly, with either of those, a big front mount h/e and meth, you should never worry about iat's. Discounting the dual pass is stupid, GM engineers, believe it or not, are extremely good at what they do, and they designed it for a reason.
look into axles for sure, you can break the stock ones on stock power. Look into a bigger meth tank unless you like filling up every few days, and the TTR mount may or may not work with the rotated mounts. Just a heads up.
look into axles for sure, you can break the stock ones on stock power. Look into a bigger meth tank unless you like filling up every few days, and the TTR mount may or may not work with the rotated mounts. Just a heads up.
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And I know 151 on the tvs is also very high.. but it took 5 back to back 0-110ish pulls to get it up there.. I'm never going to be doing that under normal circumstances.. (I was only doing it then to tune afr and to see what i could get away with before levels got dangerous...) it runs 125-135 in 88* ambient temps after 1 or 2 pulls
PS.. I have a dual pass set-up on the car..
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why will the TTR mount and rotated mounts not work together? One is for the motor and the other for tranny, two different parts of the car. Unless im missing something. Any info would be great...thanks
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the rotated mounts reposition the engine. I believe some people have slightly modified the ttr upper engine mount. The fact is with rotated mounts theres not need for an upper mount
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the rotated mounts do just that, rotate the engine/transmission assembly. the TTR mount is a semi solid mount designed for the stock engine/tranny orientation. Like i said, it may or may not work, i have yet to try installing the TTR mount on the roated mounts so i'm not personally sure.
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guess ill have to find out when i get it, otherwise i guess i spent money on a engine mount for no reason, im sure someone will want to buy it...lol
ok so i did abit more research on the mounts. TTR claims the solid engine mount will work with the ottp stage 2 rotated tranny mounts. However it wont work with the Ingalls TD. People are still saying the engine mount wont work right with the trans mounts...ill find out when i get them, but for now i either go the following routes...
TTR Engine mount + OTTP Stage 2 Rotated Tranny Mounts
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OTTP Stage 2 Rotated Tranny Mounts + Ingalls TD
like i said once i get them ill install them and see what fits/works and see whats best for the car. The way its going to work right now is my boost gauge will be here tomorrow or friday. Engine mount is shipping today or tomorrow so that should be here in about 1 week. The TVS shipped today so that should be here in 1 week. OTTP emailed me and told me they are out of stock of the front mount so they have to wait until its in stock, josh said they should be shipped by next Wed. And the header/dp and exhaust is being made and is about 3-4 weeks away from being shipped. Soon as i get the TVS im installing it and getting a local guy to tune it. Then once all parts are installed ill bring it to the dyno and see what the numbers are. Also ill be going to the track July 18th/19th for the cobalt meet. Should have everything except header/dp and exhaust for that.
ok so i did abit more research on the mounts. TTR claims the solid engine mount will work with the ottp stage 2 rotated tranny mounts. However it wont work with the Ingalls TD. People are still saying the engine mount wont work right with the trans mounts...ill find out when i get them, but for now i either go the following routes...
TTR Engine mount + OTTP Stage 2 Rotated Tranny Mounts
or
OTTP Stage 2 Rotated Tranny Mounts + Ingalls TD
like i said once i get them ill install them and see what fits/works and see whats best for the car. The way its going to work right now is my boost gauge will be here tomorrow or friday. Engine mount is shipping today or tomorrow so that should be here in about 1 week. The TVS shipped today so that should be here in 1 week. OTTP emailed me and told me they are out of stock of the front mount so they have to wait until its in stock, josh said they should be shipped by next Wed. And the header/dp and exhaust is being made and is about 3-4 weeks away from being shipped. Soon as i get the TVS im installing it and getting a local guy to tune it. Then once all parts are installed ill bring it to the dyno and see what the numbers are. Also ill be going to the track July 18th/19th for the cobalt meet. Should have everything except header/dp and exhaust for that.
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Just use the tranny mounts. The only thing you will accomplish by using something other than the stock upper motor mount is adding more unneeded vibrations. The tranny mounts hold the engine and tranny in there pretty stiff as it is.