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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Superchargers are cool, but not meant for 4 cylinders...

I say turbo.
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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I have the hahn kit..

Its a total blast.

But it really depends on what you want.. mostly where you want your power... as that dictates at what point your going to take advantage over other people...
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 04:41 AM
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Id personally go Hahn hands down. Sure alot of guys think the TVS is cool because not as many people are running them but turbo opens up way more doors down the road. Its easier to create more power with the turbo and overall I believe its much easier on your engine. You would be running internal temps upwards of 250 degrees whereas with the s20g you are lucky if you ever see 100. The versatility of the Hahn s20g just makes this a no brainer. Oh and stay the **** away from twincharging. Your gains with twincharging are minimal vs just the s20g and the only benifit of twincharging to supposed to be to help the lag with most turbos but the s20g has virtually no lag and spools very quickly. I have the hahn turbo and I dont want anymore bottom end because I still need to feather through 1st and 2nd. Also, twincharging is a bitch to tune for. As far as comparing turbo to the TVS as apples to oranges thats like comparing a Ferrari to a Ford focus imo. Just soo many more benifits of going turbo.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Area47
your car will be proof as a back up to mine.


why do i keep getting brought up in threads like this?
and I cant waits
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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The hahn kit is super pricey. You can piece a turbo kit together cheaper and have a much better set up. Personally I think the twincharge kit is awesome its well priced runs strong no lag sounds amazing etc. I don't see how it would be any harder to tune for really, but hey its css.net one person says its hard to tune for and then no nothings post that up in ever thread.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Stiner
you are the TVS benchmark
That is the funniest thing ive heard. Its called the Area47 nut swinging fan club.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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That is the funniest thing ive heard. Its called the Area47 nut swinging fan club.
Has anybody done better than Area47 with the TVS?
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Has anybody done better than Area47 with the TVS?
Someone hit 400+ on the TVS then the motor popped because he had too much knock.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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I just don't like how he hides everything he does like its some big secret and then people worship him. Why worship someone that is not nice enough to help other people out.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by G85 SS
Someone hit 400+ on the TVS then the motor popped because he had too much knock.
I repeat my prior statement.

Originally Posted by ecotecturbo
I just don't like how he hides everything he does like its some big secret and then people worship him. Why worship someone that is not nice enough to help other people out.
I agree 100%. Don't get me wrong, I'm not an Area47 fan. I will recognize what he's done, but I too am frustrated with his secretness. I'd like to learn from somebody knowledgable, not have somebody who claims they know it to be fact, but not back anything up. Evidence is how people are convinced.

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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by domin8_gt
I repeat my prior statement.



I agree 100%. Don't get me wrong, I'm not an Area47 fan. I will recognize what he's done, but I too am frustrated with his secretness. I'd like to learn from somebody knowledgable, not have somebody who claims they know it to be fact, but not back anything up. Evidence is how people are convinced.
He made the power. Don't know how long it ran like that for, but the power was there on TVS.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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He made the power. Don't know how long it ran like that for, but the power was there on TVS.
We can agree to disagree on this. I think the fact that they blew motor says a lot.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
your car will be proof as a back up to mine.

Originally Posted by ecotecturbo
I just don't like how he hides everything he does like its some big secret and then people worship him. Why worship someone that is not nice enough to help other people out.
Look at the quote from him. He helps a lot, just don't bash the man.

BTW, let's not turn this thread into something like the other 426 TVS threads, ok? Thanks

Originally Posted by domin8_gt
We can agree to disagree on this. I think the fact that they blew motor says a lot.
I hear you on that. Can't argue that the numbers were not made. But like you said, motor blew so. It definitely says something.

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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Can't wait for the Vulcan intake manifold. I think it'll open up some of the potential of the TVS that is being held back by the stock IM. I think that part will change some opinions in this thread.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by domin8_gt
Can't wait for the Vulcan intake manifold. I think it'll open up some of the potential of the TVS that is being held back by the stock IM. I think that part will change some opinions in this thread.
:epic facepalm:
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by domin8_gt
Can't wait for the Vulcan intake manifold. I think it'll open up some of the potential of the TVS that is being held back by the stock IM. I think that part will change some opinions in this thread.
I didn't know Vulcan was coming out with a different I/M for the S/C...

Bottleneck on this car is the head. My next major mod will probably be a ported head with springs/valves. But it's so much money.

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:epic facepalm:

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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by G85 SS
I didn't know Vulcan was coming out with a different I/M for the S/C...

Bottleneck on this car is the head. My next major mod will probably be a ported head with springs/valves. But it's so much money.
Yes, the head is the biggest bottleneck, but the IM is heating up the air because of lack of cooling. Give me a second and I'll find the link for the Vulcan IM.

edit: found the link. https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lsj-performance-tech-47/high-flow-intake-manifold%2A%2A%2Apicking-off-where-rebel-stopped%2A%2A-177470/
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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5 days.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
5 days.
O Rly? Getting a little giddy.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by victoryss
:epic facepalm:
And what is it you'd like to say? If the engine can't breathe it is not making the power it could.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by G85 SS
I didn't know Vulcan was coming out with a different I/M for the S/C...

Bottleneck on this car is the head. My next major mod will probably be a ported head with springs/valves. But it's so much money.


Talk to john and get a single pass imo

Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
5 days.
I r excited for this!!!! Can you steal me a set of pistons and a head that is ported with supertechs on it

Originally Posted by domin8_gt
And what is it you'd like to say? If the engine can't breathe it is not making the power it could.
Get a single pass from ott. imo the im is not even in the ballpark on holding the cars back

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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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Talk to john and get a single pass imo



I r excited for this!!!! Can you steal me a set of pistons and a head that is ported with supertechs on it
god knows we have enough of them lol
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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had to edit my post because you guys did. I have talked to ottp about this. guess what else they can do with it?
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
god knows we have enough of them lol
Me wants but me is broke.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by G85 SS
Me wants but me is broke.
+1. Gotta finish what I'm working on now first.
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