Twinscrew Current Dyno Numbers & Issues
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we made 280whp and 270wtq on a dynojet at 5700rpm on a stock cobalt running the Twin Screw. We claimed with an exhaust it should make 300whp at 7000rpm. I think we can say we have proven this.
The reason 2K5SS/SC? has to tweak his tune is because he's nothing close to stock before slapping on the kit.
Great job so far
it's always a battle with the things you never think of.
The reason 2K5SS/SC? has to tweak his tune is because he's nothing close to stock before slapping on the kit.
Great job so far
it's always a battle with the things you never think of.2500$ to dyno MAYBE 20-30 more WHP isnt exactly worth it IMO
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I told you guys he would be coming
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i agree , ok im joe blow and i just dynoed 290 WHP with meth and the M62 and a great tune , can someone in here justify to me spending 2500 to dyno 320 maybe 330 ??? thats like a 100 dollars per HP AKA a waste of money
all im saying is if i still owned a cobalt and was running 290 WHP on the M62 i wouldnt even look in this swaps direction
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therefore why would matty finch pay 3000$ to dyno maybe 325 complete waste , just port the head and run some aggresive cams and it will be cheaper and more reliable , or a turbo
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People always seem to think i post just to make fun of something. Let's get something straight. IMO going to a TS is a great step. My only problem with the kit is that they went with too small of a blower and the price is about a grand too high. I hope you hit 300whp with it when it's all done BUT i would have liked to see what kind of power it would put down without the need for any extra's.
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I've seen a stage 2 car Put down 273hp on a mustang dyno. Dyno's are tools for tuning plan and simple.
If you wanna go dyno racing there are ways to fudge the numbers.We DO NOT!
I've Personally dyno'd over 40 cobalts on the dyno and 100's of other cars that weren't cobalts. I've seen that same car go to another dyno and make 15-20% more or less.
We would have finished the tuning on the twin screw ourselves, but do not have a car with a clutch in it to take the power it is making. The stock clutch is not up to the power this kit is making thus we sent out the first kit to 2K5SS/SC?
The Kit is a direct bolt on you Unbolt and re-bolt. The tune is still being developed, you have to understand that the twin screw is nothing like the M62 interms of tuning.
We ask that everyone be patient with us and 2K5SS/SC?. He is busting his ass to get things tuned up right.
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That guy never Produced a Dyno Graph ever.. Total BS.
I've seen a stage 2 car Put down 273hp on a mustang dyno. Dyno's are tools for tuning plan and simple.
If you wanna go dyno racing there are ways to fudge the numbers.We DO NOT!
I've Personally dyno'd over 40 cobalts on the dyno and 100's of other cars that weren't cobalts. I've seen that same car go to another dyno and make 15-20% more or less.
We would have finished the tuning on the twin screw ourselves, but do not have a car with a clutch in it to take the power it is making. The stock clutch is not up to the power this kit is making thus we sent out the first kit to 2K5SS/SC?
The Kit is a direct bolt on you Unbolt and re-bolt. The tune is still being developed, you have to understand that the twin screw is nothing like the M62 interms of tuning.
We ask that everyone be patient with us and 2K5SS/SC?. He is busting his ass to get things tuned up right.
I've seen a stage 2 car Put down 273hp on a mustang dyno. Dyno's are tools for tuning plan and simple.
If you wanna go dyno racing there are ways to fudge the numbers.We DO NOT!
I've Personally dyno'd over 40 cobalts on the dyno and 100's of other cars that weren't cobalts. I've seen that same car go to another dyno and make 15-20% more or less.
We would have finished the tuning on the twin screw ourselves, but do not have a car with a clutch in it to take the power it is making. The stock clutch is not up to the power this kit is making thus we sent out the first kit to 2K5SS/SC?
The Kit is a direct bolt on you Unbolt and re-bolt. The tune is still being developed, you have to understand that the twin screw is nothing like the M62 interms of tuning.
We ask that everyone be patient with us and 2K5SS/SC?. He is busting his ass to get things tuned up right.
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People always seem to think i post just to make fun of something. Let's get something straight. IMO going to a TS is a great step. My only problem with the kit is that they went with too small of a blower and the price is about a grand too high. I hope you hit 300whp with it when it's all done BUT i would have liked to see what kind of power it would put down without the need for any extra's.
Parts add up. Not to mention the blower isn't cheap and comes from sweden.
Last time I checked my kids wanted to eat and live in a house.
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You have no Idea how many parts actually go into this kit. There is quite a bit of machine work invloved as well as welding and assembly time.
Parts add up. Not to mention the blower isn't cheap and comes from sweden.
Last time I checked my kids wanted to eat and live in a house.
Parts add up. Not to mention the blower isn't cheap and comes from sweden.
Last time I checked my kids wanted to eat and live in a house.
just kidding, couldnt resist!
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i would definately not say you have acheived anything , all you guys have acheived was almost hydrolocking the motor , ive seen cobalts dyno higher with the M62 , not knocking your project just not impressed
2500$ to dyno MAYBE 20-30 more WHP isnt exactly worth it IMO
2500$ to dyno MAYBE 20-30 more WHP isnt exactly worth it IMO
Please show us some M62's Cobalt dynoed more than 272 WHP on a MUSTANG dyno. Where are the graphs ???
Secondly, to evaluate properly the amount of power it gives over the M62 with an IDENTICAL setup, you must compare numbers coming from the same dyno. This has been said tons of time.
Finally, your post was so unrealistic and pessimist, that if I would be a moderator, I would at least delete your post or at worst banned you.
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Please show us some M62's Cobalt dynoed more than 272 WHP on a MUSTANG dyno. Where are the graphs ???
Secondly, to evaluate properly the amount of power it gives over the M62 with an IDENTICAL setup, you must compare numbers coming from the same dyno. This has been said tons of time.
Finally, your post was so unrealistic and pessimist, that if I would be a moderator, I would at least delete your post or at worst banned you.
Secondly, to evaluate properly the amount of power it gives over the M62 with an IDENTICAL setup, you must compare numbers coming from the same dyno. This has been said tons of time.
Finally, your post was so unrealistic and pessimist, that if I would be a moderator, I would at least delete your post or at worst banned you.
You have no Idea how many parts actually go into this kit. There is quite a bit of machine work invloved as well as welding and assembly time.
Parts add up. Not to mention the blower isn't cheap and comes from sweden.
Last time I checked my kids wanted to eat and live in a house.
Parts add up. Not to mention the blower isn't cheap and comes from sweden.
Last time I checked my kids wanted to eat and live in a house.
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i will admit 272 whp on a mustang dyno nice but still.......
We really won't know untill he gets everything sorted out. personally i wouldn' have post anything to anyone on this site till i had it close to 90 or 100% because he should have known that his post would have come under scurtiny........
We really won't know untill he gets everything sorted out. personally i wouldn' have post anything to anyone on this site till i had it close to 90 or 100% because he should have known that his post would have come under scurtiny........
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That guy never Produced a Dyno Graph ever.. Total BS.
I've seen a stage 2 car Put down 273hp on a mustang dyno. Dyno's are tools for tuning plan and simple.
If you wanna go dyno racing there are ways to fudge the numbers.We DO NOT!
I've Personally dyno'd over 40 cobalts on the dyno and 100's of other cars that weren't cobalts. I've seen that same car go to another dyno and make 15-20% more or less.
We would have finished the tuning on the twin screw ourselves, but do not have a car with a clutch in it to take the power it is making. The stock clutch is not up to the power this kit is making thus we sent out the first kit to 2K5SS/SC?
The Kit is a direct bolt on you Unbolt and re-bolt. The tune is still being developed, you have to understand that the twin screw is nothing like the M62 interms of tuning.
We ask that everyone be patient with us and 2K5SS/SC?. He is busting his ass to get things tuned up right.
I've seen a stage 2 car Put down 273hp on a mustang dyno. Dyno's are tools for tuning plan and simple.
If you wanna go dyno racing there are ways to fudge the numbers.We DO NOT!
I've Personally dyno'd over 40 cobalts on the dyno and 100's of other cars that weren't cobalts. I've seen that same car go to another dyno and make 15-20% more or less.
We would have finished the tuning on the twin screw ourselves, but do not have a car with a clutch in it to take the power it is making. The stock clutch is not up to the power this kit is making thus we sent out the first kit to 2K5SS/SC?
The Kit is a direct bolt on you Unbolt and re-bolt. The tune is still being developed, you have to understand that the twin screw is nothing like the M62 interms of tuning.
We ask that everyone be patient with us and 2K5SS/SC?. He is busting his ass to get things tuned up right.
I totally agree, I think you guys have made a great great idea into a great product. The issue is the tuning and as we all know tuning is a bitch for the balts. I will wait patiently to see what beast of a tune you can get from this set up.
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And about the false knock problem. Clutch and blower noise isn't going to give you false knock readings. Those don't come close to make the frequencies the knock sensor picks up.
An LSJ with a solid metal to metal mount doesn't even give false knock readings.
An LSJ with a solid metal to metal mount doesn't even give false knock readings.
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