2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

This week's twin charge build, 361WHP

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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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This week's twin charge build, 361WHP

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Bill came to just over 6 grand total and included our 3" exhaust, axles, clutch,60# injectors, alum flywheel, brakes, dyno tuning, and all labor.

Twin charge kit was 3200 with 256 turbo, larger IC, BRFP, alum intake tube.

Buyer put a deposit in some time ago which grandfathered him in as the 3rd buyer so he got $200 off for that.

93 octane, 11.5 AF ratio, 16.5 deg timing, 113 IATs, 361WHP at 7k rpm

Stock engine, head, cam, valve springs, etc. Only mods are parts listed in this post.



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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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its nice and all, but my buddy made that almost for 2200 just by going turbo. nice work tho none the less
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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I like the look of that low end torque.

The high end numbers are nice as well.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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not to be a dick, but 6k is alot for 361whp. y didnt he just go turbo or tvs with spray
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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yeah, its just not doing it for me
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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who cares if you buddy did it for 2200 by going just turbo. Maybe this guy doesn't have the know how or the tools to do this job. Maybe he wanted to be diff. and do the twincharge instead of a hahn stage 5. It seems like most people care more about putting everything down then trying to just help people out.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Red05SS/SC
who cares if you buddy did it for 2200 by going just turbo. Maybe this guy doesn't have the know how or the tools to do this job. Maybe he wanted to be diff. and do the twincharge instead of a hahn stage 5. It seems like most people care more about putting everything down then trying to just help people out.
so your saying someone who doesnt have the know how of going turbo is going to go twin charged? rrrriiigggghhhhtttt, you do realize, well actually you dont, that going twincharged on an LSJ is adding a turbo right? so what you said above makes NO sense at all. Id expect nothing less tho after reading your comment. And where did i put the OP down? I didnt. I said nice work none the less. you fail. continue on
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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its nice and all, but my buddy made that almost for 2200 just by going turbo. nice work tho none the less
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not to be a dick, but 6k is alot for 361whp. y didnt he just go turbo or tvs with spray


He didn't just get his car to make big horsepower... he got brakes, alum flywheel, (lighter reciprocating mass for faster rev), axles and a clutch to handle the extra HP.
Anyone knows this kind of HP is available with bolt on goods and a tune. From what it sounds like, THIS guy did it right by ensuring the rest of the car was more capable of handling extra HP...

Unlike some of the dyno queens I've seen on here.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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thats a good point! its always smart to upgrade the brakes and even the suspension when adding more HP. The clutch and flywheel i could see as a necessity upgrade just to put down the added power.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
thats a good point! its always smart to upgrade the brakes and even the suspension when adding more HP. The clutch and flywheel i could see as a necessity upgrade just to put down the added power.

So the 'buddy' that did it for ~2200...did he do all that crap too for that price?

I highly doubt it.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
not to be a dick, but 6k is alot for 361whp. y didnt he just go turbo or tvs with spray
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its nice and all, but my buddy made that almost for 2200 just by going turbo. nice work tho none the less
TVS with spray would make a lot of power, $2200 is cheap.

How much was the turbo kit on that $2200 build? What clutch did he buy? Which axles? What catback did he buy? Where did you guys dyno and how much did they charge? What brakes is he running? How much did he pay for his aluminum flywheel? What times does he run at the track?

TVS 1800
Nitrous 500
dyno 200
injectors 200
HP tuner 500
LS4 TB 75
Intake 200
Header/downpipe 400
Exhaust 500

Looks like you just spent 4375 to hit 361WHP and it only does it on the spray and will toast your stock clutch. So we'll add brakes, flywheel, clutch, axles to that and get??? And BTW, this is with you doing it all yourself, LOL.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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you people do realize this car makes 200whp at 3500rpm right? thats over 50whp more at 3500rpm than the hahn turbo setup.

also he didnt pay $6000 to make 361whp, he paid $3200 (which is much cheaper than the hahn stage 5, and a way better bang for your buck over the TVS). the rest are recommended upgrades which any type of setup making this power would require to run safely and repeatdly.

zzp for the win!
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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It came to 6k because of all the things he needed...

Turbo guys need the same ****..clutch injectors all the works
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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he used a ebay turbo housing with greddy internals, he has drilled and slotted rotors with not sure which pads he bought off of ebay, stock axles, SMG Motoring ( supporting vendor ) catback 3 inch, and hes on stock clutch/flywheel right now, but will be putting in a exedy clutch/flywheel setup shortly.
Also SMG motoring installed, tuned, and dynoed the car, im not sure if im allowed to talk their prices individually for any of that. and no one mentioned anything about it being hahn, i can see where this is going with that....
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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yet again zoomer being a d!ck^^^^^^^^
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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u can get a tvs dyno tuned for 300-450 not 700. and y spend 500 on a cat-back u can get a 3" custom made for 250 tops.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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I'll keep it simple, congrats! Nice to see things done properly!
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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plus if he wants to include track times i think drag tires and rims would also need to be added to the equation if we want to throw every number possible out there....
and no the tune would not cost 500, nor would an exhaust cost 500 if made in shop at SMG, and an LS4 tb was not used so the 75 can be cut out. theres many different factors for each persons setups.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
he used a ebay turbo housing with greddy internals, he has drilled and slotted rotors with not sure which pads he bought off of ebay, stock axles, SMG Motoring ( supporting vendor ) catback 3 inch, and hes on stock clutch/flywheel right now, but will be putting in a exedy clutch/flywheel setup shortly.
Also SMG motoring installed, tuned, and dynoed the car, im not sure if im allowed to talk their prices individually for any of that. and no one mentioned anything about it being hahn, i can see where this is going with that....
So you're talking about a guy who bought random parts from all over on Ebay, did the work himself and has way less mods than this guy and you're claiming he got ripped off because your boy paid 2200 and he paid 6k? Well in that case I know a guy who paid $300 for a used nitrous kit and sprayed his Mustand and ran 11's. You're boy got ripped off. $2200 and he could have made the HP for $300 with a used nitrous kit off ebay.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Congrats ZZP, nice work.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
plus if he wants to include track times i think drag tires and rims would also need to be added to the equation if we want to throw every number possible out there....
and no the tune would not cost 500, nor would an exhaust cost 500 if made in shop at SMG, and an LS4 tb was not used so the 75 can be cut out. theres many different factors for each persons setups.
This is true, kinda like how this ZZP car has upgraded axles, clutch, and flywheel. Theres a big price difference there between zzp and your buddies car as well.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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So you're talking about a guy who bought random parts from all over on Ebay, did the work himself and has way less mods than this guy and you're claiming he got ripped off because your boy paid 2200 and he paid 6k? Well in that case I know a guy who paid $300 for a used nitrous kit and sprayed his Mustand and ran 11's. You're boy got ripped off. $2200 and he could have made the HP for $300 with a used nitrous kit off ebay.
show me which post where i specifically state that your boy got ripped off? I didnt cause I didnt say that, your twisting my words and making it something its not. And just because it was random parts off of ebay doesnt make it bad, you can find good bargins on ebay which he did. Smart shopper if you will. My boy didnt get ripped off, he has a reliable car with numbers similar to yours at a cheaper cost. thats all it is. im not starting a war, im just simply stating what happened to someone i know. take it how you want.
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
plus if he wants to include track times i think drag tires and rims would also need to be added to the equation if we want to throw every number possible out there....
and no the tune would not cost 500, nor would an exhaust cost 500 if made in shop at SMG, and an LS4 tb was not used so the 75 can be cut out. theres many different factors for each persons setups.
HOw much did he dyno and what does it run at the track? I got a hundy that this customer's car would run circles around your boy at the drag strip. This setup would probably run 12.0-12.2

What's the fastest hahn Cobalt?
What's the fastest TVS or nitrous Cobalt?
What's the fastest Turbo converted Cobalt?
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show me which post where i specifically state that your boy got ripped off? I didnt cause I didnt say that, your twisting my words and making it something its not. And just because it was random parts off of ebay doesnt make it bad, you can find good bargins on ebay which he did. Smart shopper if you will. My boy didnt get ripped off, he has a reliable car with numbers similar to yours at a cheaper cost. thats all it is. im not starting a war, im just simply stating what happened to someone i know. take it how you want.
I didn't mean to put words in your mouth, I apologize.

I took it as a completely unfair comparison. Someone buying random parts off ebay, not posting a dyno or running at the track, not doing 1/2 the mods this guy did and then saying it was cheaper. Anyway can buy less parts, do the labor themselves, get less and have it be cheaper.
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Originally Posted by DTM2188
This is true, kinda like how this ZZP car has upgraded axles, clutch, and flywheel. Theres a big price difference there between zzp and your buddies car as well.
yes I understand this, its two different builds alltogether, even if you added these prices and pieces to my buddies car itd still come in less expensive. not saying ZZP built a bad car because im sure its fun, and one hell of a ride, just saying my buddy went a different route, achieved similar results and saved a few dollars.
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jc's turbo'd lsj ran 12.6
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