2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old May 8, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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What do you think?

I want to do some upgrades to the almighty Cobalt SS/SC. Here's a rough outline to what I want to do. Anyone think it's worth the time/effort and money? Any of this list NOT possible?

*Performance:
-Twincharger Kit
-Cold-Air Intake (For supercharger if not connected to intercooler)
-2-4" Exhaust System (No resignator)
-Stage II Supercharger Kit
-Complete ECU Re-tune
-Forged Pistons
-Forged Camshafts
-Forged Connecting Rods
-Racing Engine Mounts
-Racing Cutch
-6-Speed Transmission
-75-100 Shot N.O.S.
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*Handling:
-Sway Bars (Front and back)
-Strut Tower Brace
-Rollcage (Custom made)
-14" Rotors (Front and Back)
-High Performance Brake Pads (Street or racing?)
-Brake Lines (Titanium/high performance?)
-High Perfomance Tires (ZZZ rated?)
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*Looks:
-LED Ground-FX (Green)
-LED Interior-FX (Green)
-Xenon Bulb (Green)
-Carbonfiber Hood (Questionable)
-Turbo Panel Gauge
-N.O.S. Gauge
-Body/Side Decals (Questionable)
-N.O.S. Steering Wheel Activator Button
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All-in-all, I'm aiming for 450-550WHP at the end, with a decent look to the car, while keeping a stock look. The lighting is getting done in July if all goes well. BTW, my 2007 Cobalt SS/SC is Corvette yellow. Any thoughts?
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Old May 8, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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That would be sick with all of that done, but if your trying to be the fastest guy around youd probably be better off buying a rwd car. With that much horsepower your not going to have any traction with fwd. My friend just built up his srt-4 and has about 380whp and he spins the tires from 40 rolls. Everytime he tries to race he request a 60 roll and people laugh in his face. He is now in the process of selling his car for a cobra and hes not making any money back on the mods he put in. Which is about 15k after labor. Best of luck though
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Old May 8, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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Yea. I think it would be pretty sick. Honestly, the ZZZ rated (or whatever the highest rating is) should have a huge effect on traction. Maybe a TCS would help also. I'm honestly projecting about an even 500 when all said and done. I'm not trying to be the fastest around though. Just enough to make it look like a rice burner, as they say, with the ability to smoke Mustangs and the actual rice burners around. Maybe the older Corvettes. In other words, just a pleasure car. The Highway 295 runs through all of RI and is about 75 miles long. Perfect track at midnight to about 3. Completely empty.

How much do you think all of this is going cost? I'm thinking about 15K.
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Old May 8, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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at least 20g if u cant do ur own build....
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Old May 8, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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at least 20g if u cant do ur own build....
What he said. You will cut an insane amount of money out of the equation if you could able to do it yourself. But if you cant the labor is gonna rape you, and with the hp you want you will be able to beat a lot more than old corvettes and mustangs
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Old May 8, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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Beat more than Mustangs and Corvettes? Like? Vipers? All we have here are Stangs and Vettes. With the exception of two Lambos, a Ferrari, three Porsches, and a Viper. I plan to havea shop install it all, but they usually charge near nothing for labor, and get a 15% discount on everything they order.
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Old May 8, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 533y4
I want to do some upgrades to the almighty Cobalt SS/SC. Here's a rough outline to what I want to do. Anyone think it's worth the time/effort and money? Any of this list NOT possible?

*Performance:
-Twincharger Kit
-Cold-Air Intake (For supercharger if not connected to intercooler)
-2-4" Exhaust System (No resignator)
-Stage II Supercharger Kit
-Complete ECU Re-tune
-Forged Pistons
-Forged Camshafts
-Forged Connecting Rods
-Racing Engine Mounts
-Racing Cutch
-6-Speed Transmission
-75-100 Shot N.O.S.
-

*Handling:
-Sway Bars (Front and back)
-Strut Tower Brace
-Rollcage (Custom made)
-14" Rotors (Front and Back)
-High Performance Brake Pads (Street or racing?)
-Brake Lines (Titanium/high performance?)
-High Perfomance Tires (ZZZ rated?)

*Looks:
-N.O.S. Steering Wheel Activator Button
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you cant do stage 2 with a twincharge kit, you actually need to run a larger than stock pulley on the twincharger kit from ZZP. and nice job with the F&F nitrous button**DANGER TO TEH MANIFOLD!!!!!**
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Old May 8, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
you cant do stage 2 with a twincharge kit, you actually need to run a larger than stock pulley on the twincharger kit from ZZP. and nice job with the F&F nitrous button**DANGER TO TEH MANIFOLD!!!!!**
Thats why I questioning. Didn't think so, but wanted to make sure. What size injectors should be used? 60#? The NOS is pretty questionable right now. Still debating if I want to or not.
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Old May 8, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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forget the twincharge kit. go big turbo or TVS+spray
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Old May 8, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 533y4
Thats why I questioning. Didn't think so, but wanted to make sure. What size injectors should be used? 60#? The NOS is pretty questionable right now. Still debating if I want to or not.
check out the Hahn super 20G turbo kit, some guy has already made 440fwhp with it and it has a lot more potential. with that much power there is no need for nitrous. Just run a big front mount intercooler and meth injection. 60's would be alright but for more tuning capabilities and to lessen the chance of maxing out the injectors, get 79 lbs/hour injectors
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Old May 8, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
forget the twincharge kit. go big turbo or TVS+spray
Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
check out the Hahn super 20G turbo kit, some guy has already made 440fwhp with it and it has a lot more potential. with that much power there is no need for nitrous. Just run a big front mount intercooler and meth injection. 60's would be alright but for more tuning capabilities and to lessen the chance of maxing out the injectors, get 79 lbs/hour injectors
What i really want to do is keep the idle to mid RPM boost of a supercharger, then addthe mid to high RPM boost of a turbo.

Whats a TVS+spray/meth injection? Crack for a car?
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Old May 8, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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you could say that
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Old May 8, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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Whatdo you guys think is a good "setup" for the ss/sc?
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Old May 8, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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prep the block, crank is good for 500hp i believe so you wont need to worry about that, forged rods and pistons, head work(porting, valve springs, etc.), 272 reground LSJ cams, port the intake manifold or wait for the new one being designed(still more than over a year away from production probably), Hahn Super 20G turbo kit, custom dyno tune, Methanol/water Injection, 3 inch downpipe and cat-back, DSS Stage 2 axles, Exedy Stage 3 clutch, Fidanza lightweight flywheel. With an awesome tune, this is looking like a 500+hp setup. Now remember, all this power is going to be very difficult to get to the ground so a lot of suspension work will be needed...and who knows how long the tranny will hold up...
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Old May 8, 2008 | 11:02 PM
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if your going for performance i wouldnt worry about all the LEDs and graffix.. thats what F&F nuts try for. as for 500hp.. no one has hit that as of yet.. i know paul and the few Turbo cobalts on here have hit 440.. and that is with a total engin overhaul.. and aolt of painstaking hours of tuneing and logging to get everything right..

roughly how much are you looking to spend on your care and do you have a daily driver?
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Originally Posted by c0baltic
if your going for performance i wouldnt worry about all the LEDs and graffix.. thats what F&F nuts try for. as for 500hp.. no one has hit that as of yet.. i know paul and the few Turbo cobalts on here have hit 440.. and that is with a total engin overhaul.. and aolt of painstaking hours of tuneing and logging to get everything right..

roughly how much are you looking to spend on your care and do you have a daily driver?
paul is actually on stock internals i believe. i wonder how long its gonna hold up
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Old May 9, 2008 | 01:49 AM
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the stage 2 kit would be pointless with the twincharge kit..one reason is your going to haft to run 60lb injectors with the twin charge kit and a stage 2 comes with 42lb injectors so thats a waste of money also the twincharge kit works because the iats stay down on the stock pulley..im sure if its taken zzp this long to mess with the tunning it would take you a while to make it work with a smaller pulley..thats just my guess..also with stock pulley the kit puts 385 to the wheels what r u going to possibly do with anything more than that
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Old May 9, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by c0baltic
if your going for performance i wouldnt worry about all the LEDs and graffix.. thats what F&F nuts try for. as for 500hp.. no one has hit that as of yet.. i know paul and the few Turbo cobalts on here have hit 440.. and that is with a total engin overhaul.. and aolt of painstaking hours of tuneing and logging to get everything right..

roughly how much are you looking to spend on your care and do you have a daily driver?
About 15-20K max. I have a G6 forthe everyday driver. And the FX are justto give it the riceburner look to it. Kinda a sleeper look here in northern RI. All the rice burners are 100% stock...
Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
prep the block, crank is good for 500hp i believe so you wont need to worry about that, forged rods and pistons, head work(porting, valve springs, etc.), 272 reground LSJ cams, port the intake manifold or wait for the new one being designed(still more than over a year away from production probably), Hahn Super 20G turbo kit, custom dyno tune, Methanol/water Injection, 3 inch downpipe and cat-back, DSS Stage 2 axles, Exedy Stage 3 clutch, Fidanza lightweight flywheel. With an awesome tune, this is looking like a 500+hp setup. Now remember, all this power is going to be very difficult to get to the ground so a lot of suspension work will be needed...and who knows how long the tranny will hold up...
Originally Posted by brownbandit9
the stage 2 kit would be pointless with the twincharge kit..one reason is your going to haft to run 60lb injectors with the twin charge kit and a stage 2 comes with 42lb injectors so thats a waste of money also the twincharge kit works because the iats stay down on the stock pulley..im sure if its taken zzp this long to mess with the tunning it would take you a while to make it work with a smaller pulley..thats just my guess..also with stock pulley the kit puts 385 to the wheels what r u going to possibly do with anything more than that
That's kinda of what I want to do is put the twincharger in and a 3" exhaust system. Then the rest for a preventive thing. Honestly, I would be happy with 400WHP. Anything more is almost unusable here (unless you're on a track). If I could equip a stock SS/SC with the twincharger kit and a 3" exhaust, and have it work with no broken parts or premature wear, I'd be happy. Then just a few suspension mods to even out the work.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 533y4
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-LED Ground-FX (Green)
-LED Interior-FX (Green)
-Xenon Bulb (Green)
green lighting on a yellow balt? as a proud owner of a Rally Yellow SS/SC please for the love of God no.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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ok. I'm thinking hat could be done for a fast, reliable, and good (and possibly cheap) build. I'm thinking a twincharger system, with 3" exhaust, and 60# injectors for performance. then strut tower brace, sway bars, better brakes and highest rated tires for suspension. then whatever exterior mods come along. anyon think that combination might work with a 100 percent stock SS/SC?

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Originally Posted by 533y4
ok. I'm thinking hat could be done for a fast, reliable, and good (and possibly cheap) build. I'm thinking a twincharger system, with 3" exhaust, and 60# injectors for performance. then strut tower brace, sway bars, better brakes and highest rated tires for suspension. then whatever exterior mods come along. anyon think that combination might work with a 100 percent stock SS/SC?
if your really hell bent on being twincharged, look into the ZZP twincharged kit. i believe they were making 380whp on stock internals
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Old May 9, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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forged camshaft??

anyways, i dont think that the 6speed conversion would hold up pushing 500whp
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