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richienolan 01-09-2013 09:38 PM

ZZP Stealth heat exchanger
 
Just wondering if anybody has bought and installed the new heat exchanger from zzp yet, anybody have any reviews on it good or bad. just wondering how well it works, how the install is, and how the overall quality is, im thinking about buying one looks real promising.

joshcsepegi 01-09-2013 10:00 PM

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Vander Nars 01-10-2013 03:10 AM

Iv got one, i keeps the temps at cruis within 18 to 20 degrees of each other for example if its 60 iat ill have 78 to. 80 iat2. The only other cooling mod i have is dual pass so it does a good job, it was easy to install but because of the way the legs on it stick out and up it wouldnt slide in from underneath the car so i bad to remove the front crash bar and slide it in like that, but removing that bar is super easy its like six bolts, the whole install is super easy. Im running a 50/50 mix of dexcool water so pure water may few a tab bit better. Iv not recording any data on my pulls but i do have a log from hp tuners ill look and see what it said about my iat2 during a pull

Vander Nars 01-10-2013 06:57 AM

ok I looked back at my logs and I did a 2nd and 3rd gear pull back to back and at the end of 3rd I was at IAT - 79 and IAT2 - 113 and a single 3rd gear pull I record was IAT - 76 and IAT2 - 104, this is on a 3in pulley with only a dual pass and zzp stealth h/e and 50/50 water dexcool mix.

mrbelvedere 01-10-2013 09:51 AM

so its no different then stock on temp control

Vander Nars 01-10-2013 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by mrbelvedere (Post 6875731)
so its no different then stock on temp control

yeah it is my stock one didnt work as good as the zzp h/e but thanks for posting the misinformation!

ThexGovenor 01-10-2013 09:58 AM

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Vander Nars 01-10-2013 09:59 AM

for everyones info my stock h/e with dual pass would have my cruise temps 30+ apart between IAT and IAT2.

Like I said normally im 18 to 20 degrees crusing but last night coming back home I was hitting lower, 16 to 18 degree difference once winter is over ill put pure water in it and im sure it be an easy 16 to 18 degree.

yellowsupercharged06 01-10-2013 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Vander Nars (Post 6875738)
for everyones info my stock h/e with dual pass would have my cruise temps 30+ apart between IAT and IAT2.

Like I said normally im 18 to 20 degrees crusing but last night coming back home I was hitting lower, 16 to 18 degree difference once winter is over ill put pure water in it and im sure it be an easy 16 to 18 degree.

soooo.... stock h/e 30* difference, stealth h/e 20* lol ?

ThexGovenor 01-10-2013 10:04 AM

He said cruise. Im sure at WOT is when this unit shines. But I cant confirm that.

mrbelvedere 01-10-2013 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Vander Nars (Post 6875734)
yeah it is my stock one didnt work as good as the zzp h/e but thanks for posting the misinformation!

ok your showing a between a 28 and a 34 deg difference from iat1 to iat2 that's pretty normal man

mrbelvedere 01-10-2013 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Vander Nars (Post 6875613)
ok I looked back at my logs and I did a 2nd and 3rd gear pull back to back and at the end of 3rd I was at IAT - 79 and IAT2 - 113 and a single 3rd gear pull I record was IAT - 76 and IAT2 - 104, this is on a 3in pulley with only a dual pass and zzp stealth h/e and 50/50 water dexcool mix.


Originally Posted by ThexGovenor (Post 6875742)
He said cruise. Im sure at WOT is when this unit shines. But I cant confirm that.

..............

Hockeyman 01-10-2013 10:22 AM

Hmmm....if Vander's results are typical with this new h/e, definitely not worth it. My cruise IAT1-2 difference is 11-15* at all times and WOT difference is around 25-30*. I have the phenolic spacer, flow through tank, opt B, and a craptastic CX Racing fmhe.

Vander Nars 01-10-2013 10:26 AM

People with more cooling mods will have better results u have a phenolic spacer, flow thru tank and opt b i dont have any of these.

Vander Nars 01-10-2013 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by mrbelvedere (Post 6875750)
ok your showing a between a 28 and a 34 deg difference from iat1 to iat2 that's pretty normal man

Its not normal for my stock h/e setup that i had so whatever it works i have confirm this comparing it to my old setup vs new.

mrbelvedere 01-10-2013 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Vander Nars (Post 6875770)
Its not normal for my stock h/e setup that i had so whatever it works i have confirm this comparing it to my old setup vs new.

that's pretty normal vander on the iat2

Vander Nars 01-10-2013 10:34 AM

That may be with ur setup but since u dont own my car im pretty sure u dont know what my iat2 was before and after the h/e, im saying it worked for me because i can see the difference because its my car that i drive everyday and watch the iat/iat2

Staged07SS 01-10-2013 10:39 AM

No one can really compare IAT2's.... It's like trying to compare boost levels.

Lots of factors can alter ones IAT2s.

There is, although, an acceptable range. If ur within it, ur good to go.

mrbelvedere 01-10-2013 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Hockeyman (Post 6875759)
Hmmm....if Vander's results are typical with this new h/e, definitely not worth it. My cruise IAT1-2 difference is 11-15* at all times and WOT difference is around 25-30*. I have the phenolic spacer, flow through tank, opt B, and a craptastic CX Racing fmhe.


Originally Posted by Vander Nars (Post 6875613)
ok I looked back at my logs and I did a 2nd and 3rd gear pull back to back and at the end of 3rd I was at IAT - 79 and IAT2 - 113 and a single 3rd gear pull I record was IAT - 76 and IAT2 - 104, this is on a 3in pulley with only a dual pass and zzp stealth h/e and 50/50 water dexcool mix.

your first pull 79iat1 iat2 113 that's a 34 deg difference your 3rd gear pull iat1 76 iat2 104 a 28 deg difference that's pretty typical


Originally Posted by Vander Nars (Post 6875777)
That may be with ur setup but since u dont own my car im pretty sure u dont know what my iat2 was before and after the h/e, im saying it worked for me because i can see the difference because its my car that i drive everyday and watch the iat/iat2

hmm looks pretty typical to me man a 30deg difference from iat1 to iat2 under a hard pull is typical people have been fighting that 30deg difference since day 1

riceburner 01-10-2013 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Vander Nars (Post 6875563)
Iv got one, i keeps the temps at cruis within 18 to 20 degrees of each other for example if its 60 iat ill have 78 to. 80 iat2. The only other cooling mod i have is dual pass so it does a good job, it was easy to install but because of the way the legs on it stick out and up it wouldnt slide in from underneath the car so i bad to remove the front crash bar and slide it in like that, but removing that bar is super easy its like six bolts, the whole install is super easy. Im running a 50/50 mix of dexcool water so pure water may few a tab bit better. Iv not recording any data on my pulls but i do have a log from hp tuners ill look and see what it said about my iat2 during a pull

damn. im running a stg1 ottp heat exhanger, dual pass, phelonic spacer and meth and my iat2s are rarely less than 30 above ambient

either way though i think an option b will help me out a bit more. i dont see the point of running a huge stealth h/e when you can just put in a small secondary thats front mount as possible

mrbelvedere 01-10-2013 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Staged07SS (Post 6875780)
No one can really compare IAT2's.... It's like trying to compare boost levels.

Lots of factors can alter ones IAT2s.

There is, although, an acceptable range. If ur within it, ur good to go.

good point the key is maintaning

07MetallicSC 01-10-2013 10:56 AM

Option b is one of the best options for the LSJ systems.

Also would like to see how this unit compares to the one modern performance is now offering. But unless someone does an A-B comparison, we will never know as Stage pointed out.

mrbelvedere 01-10-2013 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC (Post 6875815)
Option b is one of the best options for the LSJ systems.

dam skippy

Staged07SS 01-10-2013 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by riceburner (Post 6875802)
damn. im running a stg1 ottp heat exhanger, dual pass, phelonic spacer and meth and my iat2s are rarely less than 30 above ambient

either way though i think an option b will help me out a bit more. i dont see the point of running a huge stealth h/e when you can just put in a small secondary thats front mount as possible

I to have the OTTP S1 (4th gen) heat exchanger (along with the GMR dual pass & Opt. B), my IAT2s are usually around 15 degrees above IAT1, and 30-40 above IAT2 during a long wot pull.

Again, this is not the best info, other than comparing the difference before and after on my car itself.


Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC (Post 6875815)
Option b is one of the best options for the LSJ systems.

Also would like to see how this unit compares to the one modern performance is now offering. But unless someone does an A-B comparison, we will never know as Stage pointed out.

Sure is!

I had opt b before an aftermarket heat exchanger and dual pass.

Tjolley 01-10-2013 01:10 PM

my iat2s go below my iat1s in the summer while cruzin..
all i have is the stock h/e.
thanks to the killer chiller..


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