i have no tuned my 2.2 at all but im debating on doing it with in the next month but i wanted to cam it since seeing as putting the supercharger or turbo is such a large amount of money and its just running a fine line with the internals since some poeple say they last and other dont.

i just want alittle more bang for my buck, my 08 was only 8,500$ im making long and dreadful payments on it its my first REAL car that im paying for and i try to take as much care of it as possible,

im definitely looking into trifecta tune since they send it in the mail but dont plan on buying the cam right away since ive only found one place who is selling one and its 500$ and that doesnt include install around here there isnt **** performance wise, any shop i walk into there like huh whats a supercharger...

i just need to know if do i need the cam and the tune at the same time bcuz im def not buying that tune twice just bcuz i bought a cam..

also if i dont tune the car is there any way id be able to swap my cat for a high flow without throwing any codes i have a 2.25 cat back like right from the 02 with a magnaflow muffler, it makes alot of noise but i want alittle bit more your really dont hear it in 4th and 5th gear. but to stop my rambling im just trying to figure out what to do with tuning and mid exhaust wise.. im the only one of my friends with a car and so im just going off of these forums and i only know a decent amount about cars so im a pretty big noob but any help is necessary.

 

If your question is:

Do I need a new tune after installing new cams?

Then your answer is, probably.

 

Just supercharge it, tune it, and call it a day... u don't really need a high flow cat... just get a new muffler...putting in an aftermarket cam is just a huge head ache and it not worth it performance wise in the end...

 

ok well im only 19 and i dont make a ton of money but like the supercharger is like 2500-3000$ so i would have to save for alittle but like what if i get the tune now save then get the supercharger? would i need to re tune or can it run with the tune that i originally put in it i also want to do the tune so i can flash the 02 sensor cuz i really want a high flow cat around here cops dont say **** about exhausts

 

You would absolutely need to retune for a supercharger. Pretty much any major change should have a retune done aside from stuff like an exhaust. I would do cams and tune at the same time. And you can pick up a used supercharger kit for much less than 2500. I've seen quite a few go for the $1000-1200 range

 

You will need to re tune after supercharging it

 

if i tuned and cammed it what would i be looking at performance wise?

 

Whom ever said you don't need.to tune it for the cam please explain.

The cam s have been made to the point at stock and tuned.for airflow taken in. So therefore if true cam lobes and dwell are longer then itll change airflow. So therefore needs a tune.

 

I wouldn't bother with cams if your gunna supercharge it. In the mean time just do intake and exhaust and tune everything once you get it supercharged.

 

im not looking for crazy fast right at this point in time so if i just tuned it so i can run it catless or high flow am i going to be happy with the cars performance?

 

Are you auto or manual? Auto trans heard good safe HP to make is max of 250. I would think Cams, supercharge and other minor stuff depending on supercharger pulley will put you around 250 give or take.
You can get a whole used kit for like 1500 max if you shop around. i got a good kit almost put together for 1200. added parts to it like dual pass mod, colder spark plugs, misc hoses and then tune.
You wont need a tune with catless DP or even with a catback. but the more mods you go, then a tune will help keep the air fuel ratio correct so it doesnt hurt your engine. usually when you do a big combo like Intake manifold, full exhaust from engine on back is a good time to tune.

also on trifecta performance website has a list of local people that can tune you. Trifecta builds the tunes, a local dealer uploads the tunes and other stuff.
your looking around $250 for trifecta if you get a local dealer. $250 + 200 (temp 200) if they send out the PDA for you to do it yourself. the extra 200 is just a security deposit incase you run away with the pda.

I seen a couple days back someone had an ok supercharger kit for about 900. just need to get some other misc parts but thats it. keep checking the for sale thread. something will come up

 

If you supercharge your car, you're GOING to need a full exhaust otherwise too much backpressure can blow your **** up. 2k isn't unheard of when it comes down to everything you need

 

What is it that makes you specifically want cams? With the money you end up spending to get that all right, you may as well have just gone with a s/c kit and a little more patience. Being in a rush often ends up with a person being disappointed...

 

You are going to spend more time and money with cams do to the fact your an 08. 05-06 is a direct swap. But with us 07 up, the cams need to be machined to press on the sensor. So your looking anywhere between 700-1200 dollars for cams.

 

you need a tune with cams unless you just enjoy wasting money on them and not getting the gains you should... also, look at the cost of all of those bolt-ons plus what you could sell your car for compared to the price of an SS/SC... i would put zero effort into messing with a 2.2 other than an intake and thats only for JDM AS FAWK intake growl to play with in traffic.

 

I picked up my supercharger for 1000! when it was all said and done 1600 def worth it and easy as pie to do. just troll here -ebay- and craigslist

 

for exhaust go with 2.5in dp with high flow cat from zzp or header dp combo, for the cams you also need valve springs and neutral balance shafts to get the potential out of the cams and HP tune it

 

yeah after hearing all the **** later down the road i will probably save up for a supercharge do to the fact it is alot of plug and play but thanks for all of the good info but your saying i can get away with putting a highflow cat on without tripping the o2? bcuz the reason i was trying to get the tune was so it could be ran highflow catless like it says on the trifecta website?

 

I put my ZZP Long tube and header and downpipe with high flow cat on my car in the summer before I went supercharged and it ran fine without a tune, no CEL

 

bro i have a 2.2 and it has the ss/sc body package. i have no intentions of going fast. your motor is slow as ***** and will never be fast, my bros 99 DOHC taurus has the 2.2 all day with mods done to it. its your first car just keep it clean and maintained and thing about buying another cool car in 5 years. my bad but truth hurts

 

Thats because the summer weather kept your cat at a certain temp so the 02 sensor wasnt gunna give ya a cel. however the moment the temp gets cooler the cel will come on and stay on until its tuned out. So to the op if your upgrading to a header and downpipe with highflow cat you will need to get the cell tuned out if not it'll stay on.

 

what in the hell are you talking about?

honestly OP, read up more, save up ALOT more, and then think if this is something that you want. Id pay off the car before you really start doing anything like forced induction, cams, etc. if you dont make alot of money, and something were to ahppen to your car, youre in deep ****.

 

my cars pretty quick and its not my first car ive had several others but this is the first one i went and bought not just some handmedown or one of those cars with 1000$4sale in the window ive had a couple of those lol

and in all reality im not doing any of this stuff tomorrow im just getting all of the facts straight so i dont make any mistakes when i do take the money and time to do this, if i dont end up with another car before hand, i think everyone understands the car isnt lightning fast but when i put my foot down i still cant believe it moves as quick as it does.

im just going to focus on getting a fe5 set up still not sure what springs im still looking around but the ssc ones look alright for the price?

 

im at about ~$1200 for my SC setup.Take your time and piece it together.

 

My SC build was under 1100