cca_bigman51

I Just bought a 2005 Cobalt. It's a 2.2L and i kinda know about Cheaper mod's and small power up grades but I'm worried about my trans-axle. I feel like i"m going to rip it out. Is the stock one able to handle more power or should i switch to a high performance and where can i find one?

Phyrric

I dont know if you mean transmission or axles but you can find either and almost anything else you'd need at zzperformance.com

cca_bigman51

i thought in a front wheel drive it was called a transaxle and rear wheel was the transmission

cca_bigman51

and again I'm vary new and stupid at this just need a little guidance haha

Phyrric

Oh okay, I dont know to be honest haha, but the stock tranny will take anything you throw at it that isn't boost im pretty sure

cca_bigman51

alright cool man thanks a lot!

TurboTechRacing

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You will be fine with all basic bolt on's. Get an Injen intake and a Magnaflow cat back exhaust system. We have them in stock at www.TurboTechRacing.com

Dont go cheap on an intake, you WILL throw an engine code with most all except name brands like Injen and K&N.

BlackCobalt707

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the axles and trans are actually decent, i tested this out myself lol. i had a 60 trim turbo on the car, with a 3" downpipe, 2.4 i/m & t/b, ss/tc catback, meth injection, spec stage 2 clutch, solid motor and tranny mounts and the tranny and axles took it all. from 2 stepping the car and dumping the clutch at 4k to launch, to hittin the gas from a low roll, to launching the car on slicks...it took it all. only when my sleeves finally pop did the 3rd gear syncros start going out and that was after years of abuse

NWAE Cobalt

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no you wont...i havent heard of that at all, on ANY 2.2

ive been running the ebay cai on my car for years now...and zero issues what so ever...



as for transaxle vs transmission vs axel....
in a fwd car you have a transmission (obviously) and it is attatched to your engine. the type of transmission is a "transaxel" because it combines the transmission and the differential. Your axels are attatched directly to that and to the hubs on both sides.

Your tranny should be fine, though your clutch is only good to 200-250 whp.

SlobatLT

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just because yours doesnt throw a code doesnt mean ****. there are many that have, just because of putting a cheap intake on, search the 2.2 section a little, there was one posted last week on this exact problem.

buying an ingen, k&n or aem is a great idea. every now and again one will pop up on here for sale pretty cheap.

NWAE Cobalt

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lmao, ive worked on numerous 2.2's as well as been on here for years (am in the top 15 for # of posts). there may be a few that have had problems..but PLENTY more that havent lol

calm down sparky

redcobalt07

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The clutch is rated in torque not hp. You're clutch is rated at 170tq and the rods are rated at 250hp.

SlobatLT

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just dont want this guy to cheap out and have problems. plus ingen and k&n look better.

BlackCobalt707

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you can cheap out on certain things, like the intake. im not about to pay $200 for a pipe with a filter on it, **** that

NWAE Cobalt

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word


and on the "they look better"...how is a label that says k&n or injen make it look better?

1LowLS

Ebay is crap because well...its......uh....uhhhmm almost everything on my car is from ebay.no problems here.Except My sc and intake is from local seller.Ebay intakes are fine.

BlackCobalt707

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i got a ebay intake and ebay 3" downpipe on my car right now. i wont lie, the intake fit like crap and i had to mod it to work, but hell, i paid like $20 so i dont care lol. the downpipe cost like $80 but flows damn good and makes good power just like if it was some expensive ass name brand and guess what, it hasnt rusted or givin me issues. also i ran a ebay turbo on my cobalt, and the turbo lasted longer then the engine did lol. im never runnin a ebay turbo again unless i have to tho

07cobaltguy

Just so you know, people are running 400+whp on the stock F23, Its you guys that have the **** trans.

06_cobalt

Do you have an automatic or manual transmission?

newt

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Just buy and intake and an exhaust if you want for now and go from there, do lots of reading and learning and you should have a pretty good base to start from.

The F23 is a very strong trans, there is a guy running 600+whp through his with just a welded diff and it still holds fine.


Wheel hops is what kills most transmissions around here or a lack of driver skill...not the trans fault.

SlobatLT

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I paid 100 bucks for my ingen. Thats why i mentioned looking on here for one, theres a guy selling a aem intake for a 2.2 for 120 if it isnt sold yet. Hell why your at it sell your balt and buy a honda.

Mr.N00bLaR

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I like my Injen intake, fit very well. Do you have a power goal for the car? Buying up mods without a goal can lead to you having to sell parts later on and possibly losing money. If you only ever plan on being naturally aspirated then most people do the following:
Intake
Manifold swap to a 2.4L
TB swap to a 2.4L
New exhuast manifold / header. You can use the 2.0 supercharged or get an after market, many options
New down pipe same as above
New cat-back exhuast same as above.
Trifecta tune due to your year

These mods and the raw muscle of a 2.2L will put you no where close to any limitations that the car has. Most people will gain ~20-30 maybe HP from this.

Look in the 2.2L engine performance forum at the top for the secondary air injection sticky. Read it and tell us if you have that.

night_throne

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the 2.4L throttle body is a waste its smaller then the actual opening in the 2.4 intake manifold if u really want a good throttle body swap u get the lsj throttle body and adpater plate for the 2.4 intake manifold so u can run a throttle body that takes full advantage of the mod

NWAE Cobalt

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ive actually thought about this. Im assuming retune once installed of course, but not sure. Do you know if retune is required? any kind of actual power gains to do the lsj tb? because at the end of the day its a bigger opening, but that doesnt mean more power... If the 2.4 or the 2.2 helps to create more velocity (IE air moves FASTER) then its a better deal. Its like getting too big of an exhaust...sure there is room and more POTENTIAL to move more air...but unless your car can take advantage of it then it can actually hurt your ability to make power.
You will find with this car that you can do alot to increase air flow...but your cyl head is going to be your restriction. That is where Im stuck at now, as far as n/a goes, without porting and polishing my cyl head there isnt alot to do (except boost ) that will increase my power significantly.
So in talking about 2.4 tb being a waste...it may not be worth the money overall...but an lsj tb may be too much and cause a net loss in power until you have the full assortment of mods to back it up.

Mr.N00bLaR

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From the various 2.2 owners I've talked to the lsj is a waste for a DD.