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BankerBalt 05-14-2012 11:22 PM

Building the head
 
due to me screwing my engine completely.... is this everything that i'll need to get the head built aside from cams?
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53...ero08/head.jpg

bluebalt07 05-14-2012 11:34 PM

Get new valve seals too. Also depending on the damage you did, you may need new rockers and lifters too. What happened to your engine?

BankerBalt 05-14-2012 11:41 PM

i know stems. the only concern is that it states in the kit that i need smaller stems... i guess i'll figure that out. i don't believe i blew a rocker or lifter, but would there be a way to know that?
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53...8/IMAG0582.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53...8/IMAG0583.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53...8/IMAG0585.jpghttp://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53...8/IMAG0586.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53...8/IMAG0587.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53...8/IMAG0588.jpg
that's what happened lol

AzraelRaezier 05-14-2012 11:46 PM

"final carnage... 3 blown pistons, spun bearings, all of my valves need to be replaced. 3k just turned into 5k. why? because racecar" his post on fb

BankerBalt 05-14-2012 11:51 PM

i'm not friends with everyone on facebook broski... the parts for the head that i put up are AFAIK, stock replacements.. can everyone validate that?

AzraelRaezier 05-14-2012 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by BankerBalt (Post 6492243)
i'm not friends with everyone on facebook broski... the parts for the head that i put up are AFAIK, stock replacements.. can everyone validate that?

i know. i just didnt feel like typing so i copy-pasted. im friends with both of you on facebook lol

bluebalt07 05-14-2012 11:58 PM

Damn dude that sucks. If the rockers and lifters are still where they should be then you shouldn't need to replace them. You will have to bleed the oil out of the lifters before reinstalling them though. Curious about how all that damage occurred.

BankerBalt 05-15-2012 12:04 AM

we've discovered that.... bad fuel pump = bad detonation

bluebalt07 05-15-2012 12:14 AM

Wow never would've thought losing fuel would cause so many problems. Sorry to hear man

BankerBalt 05-15-2012 12:18 AM

this happened a month and a half ago lol... i just pulled the engine yesterday and took it apart within an hour this morning. nobody has answered my question yet! i'm looking for a stock replacement with all supertech... are those parts good to go for replacement or should i be looking at different part numbers?

bluebalt07 05-15-2012 12:25 AM

Couldn't tell you because I can't really tell what you're getting by looking at the picture. As long as they are for a cobalt they will work in your stock head.

BankerBalt 05-15-2012 12:28 AM

Supertech Spring / Retainer Kits CHEVROLET CAVALIER BASE 2002 - 2005 2.2 SPRK-EC3027

Supertech Valves CHEVROLET CAVALIER BASE 2002 - 2005 2.2 GIVN-0010

Supertech Valves CHEVROLET CAVALIER BASE 2002 - 2005 2.2 GEVN-0010

those are the parts..

bluebalt07 05-15-2012 12:39 AM

Yep those will work for you. I'm not sure what the deal is with the smaller seal though

BankerBalt 05-15-2012 12:54 AM

Awesome thanks!

If you look at the description for the seats, it says it requires smaller seals.... Insight anyone?

BankerBalt 05-15-2012 05:33 PM

New plan...
Zzp 82# springs and retainers
Supertech intake valves
Supertech exhaust valves
Supertech valve guides
Supertech valve seat
Viton valve seals

Good plan? All compatible?

bluebalt07 05-15-2012 06:43 PM

Sounds like a good plan. Only thing I'd ask about is wherever you buy the seals from, I'd ask them if they work with the supertech valves

BankerBalt 05-15-2012 06:59 PM

I bought the seals from dezod. And in the supertech valve guide description, it says that those are required to work with the guides. Assuming that all supertech parts are compatible

BankerBalt 05-15-2012 10:21 PM

can someone please explain to me which supertech spring seats will work with zzp's 82# valve springs and retainers?

BankerBalt 05-15-2012 11:10 PM

i'm trying to buy parts like...right now... anyone?

BankerBalt 05-16-2012 10:31 AM

Bueller, bueller?

Brags 05-16-2012 10:58 AM

I think I might be one of only a few l61 with fully built, port polished head. I am running the Supertech #78 springs, Ti retainers, custom seats, Supertech coated valves, and 5 angle race port and polish from Performance Autowerks. We thought this would be plug and play for stock, but was not. The stock size valves are fine, but custom work to head and seats is required. IF need more exact information, I would contact my man Dave or Ricky at PWerks in Plainfield, IL.

BankerBalt 05-16-2012 11:46 AM

So the supertech stock size valves will not fit?

Brags 05-16-2012 12:04 PM

Valves are fine, its the 78# supertech kit that needs custom work to head and seats. I think you should be fine with zzp, but I would ask them.

BankerBalt 05-16-2012 12:10 PM

Alright phew! Do you happen to know what seats would work with zzps springs? They aren't getting back to me at all right now...

06_ion2 05-16-2012 10:23 PM

I just bought a patriot head so i didnt have to deal with all this.


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