View Poll Results: delete my a/c?
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A/C delete yay or nay?
05-14-2009, 09:44 AM
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first off picking hunnies up in a cobalt isnt the first thing that comes with the car. second not only do you loose weight you also reduce the rotating mass on your engine helping produce more power and reving up faster. the saying in the racing world is worry about the ounces and the pounds will come off. I also live in md, I have been contemplating this quagmire for a while and I am building a kit for it now. I say yes man up dont be dumb and if your chick is that superficial take her car so you save money or get a new one. YES
05-14-2009, 10:17 AM
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05-14-2009, 10:20 AM
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things to start with:
1: sound deadening material on struts, behind door panels and in trunk. ( I run a completely gutted trunk and door the only things that are in the door are the wires and structural pieces)
2: remove the carpet from the trunk and any sound deadening material that you find in there
3: plastic screw covers on the base of your seats, on your door handle, and on the door arm rest.
4: get rid of the floor mats
5: get rid of that sub and amp. getting really nice speakers w/ tweeters and a good 4 channel you will be straight.
The next big step i would take is replace your hood and trunk with fiberglass or carbon fiber pieces (be patient and look for used stuff i have both and spent less than 500 for both by doing this) if you want to get extreme with this run hood pins (you may have to because the hood strut will often warp carbon and you need it to keep the hood from moving around.
I would also get rid of your stock rims, im assuming you have the 4x100 wheels, there is no shortage of cheap wheel that can be had which weigh next to nothing again i would recommend looking for used stuff vs stock although the new stuff can be had for next to nothing.
I dont know what model car you have but getting rid of things like power windows is a big move in the right direction... speaking of which if anyone wants to trade their manual windows for my power ones...
In short there is a lot of room to reduce weight on these cars if you look.... I would leave the a/c in if i were you.
*** REMEMBER THIS***
take a 2500lb car with 140 hp and thats 17.9lbs/hp so by removing 18lbs that ratio is the same as adding 1hp to your car and that number exaggerates every time you do it 20lbs may not seem like a lot but remember its all about power to weight ratio guys.
1: sound deadening material on struts, behind door panels and in trunk. ( I run a completely gutted trunk and door the only things that are in the door are the wires and structural pieces)
2: remove the carpet from the trunk and any sound deadening material that you find in there
3: plastic screw covers on the base of your seats, on your door handle, and on the door arm rest.
4: get rid of the floor mats
5: get rid of that sub and amp. getting really nice speakers w/ tweeters and a good 4 channel you will be straight.
The next big step i would take is replace your hood and trunk with fiberglass or carbon fiber pieces (be patient and look for used stuff i have both and spent less than 500 for both by doing this) if you want to get extreme with this run hood pins (you may have to because the hood strut will often warp carbon and you need it to keep the hood from moving around.
I would also get rid of your stock rims, im assuming you have the 4x100 wheels, there is no shortage of cheap wheel that can be had which weigh next to nothing again i would recommend looking for used stuff vs stock although the new stuff can be had for next to nothing.
I dont know what model car you have but getting rid of things like power windows is a big move in the right direction... speaking of which if anyone wants to trade their manual windows for my power ones...
In short there is a lot of room to reduce weight on these cars if you look.... I would leave the a/c in if i were you.
*** REMEMBER THIS***
take a 2500lb car with 140 hp and thats 17.9lbs/hp so by removing 18lbs that ratio is the same as adding 1hp to your car and that number exaggerates every time you do it 20lbs may not seem like a lot but remember its all about power to weight ratio guys.
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05-14-2009, 10:38 AM
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things to start with:
1: sound deadening material on struts, behind door panels and in trunk. ( I run a completely gutted trunk and door the only things that are in the door are the wires and structural pieces)
2: remove the carpet from the trunk and any sound deadening material that you find in there
3: plastic screw covers on the base of your seats, on your door handle, and on the door arm rest.
4: get rid of the floor mats
5: get rid of that sub and amp. getting really nice speakers w/ tweeters and a good 4 channel you will be straight.
The next big step i would take is replace your hood and trunk with fiberglass or carbon fiber pieces (be patient and look for used stuff i have both and spent less than 500 for both by doing this) if you want to get extreme with this run hood pins (you may have to because the hood strut will often warp carbon and you need it to keep the hood from moving around.
I would also get rid of your stock rims, im assuming you have the 4x100 wheels, there is no shortage of cheap wheel that can be had which weigh next to nothing again i would recommend looking for used stuff vs stock although the new stuff can be had for next to nothing.
I dont know what model car you have but getting rid of things like power windows is a big move in the right direction... speaking of which if anyone wants to trade their manual windows for my power ones...
In short there is a lot of room to reduce weight on these cars if you look.... I would leave the a/c in if i were you.
*** REMEMBER THIS***
take a 2500lb car with 140 hp and thats 17.9lbs/hp so by removing 18lbs that ratio is the same as adding 1hp to your car and that number exaggerates every time you do it 20lbs may not seem like a lot but remember its all about power to weight ratio guys.
1: sound deadening material on struts, behind door panels and in trunk. ( I run a completely gutted trunk and door the only things that are in the door are the wires and structural pieces)
2: remove the carpet from the trunk and any sound deadening material that you find in there
3: plastic screw covers on the base of your seats, on your door handle, and on the door arm rest.
4: get rid of the floor mats
5: get rid of that sub and amp. getting really nice speakers w/ tweeters and a good 4 channel you will be straight.
The next big step i would take is replace your hood and trunk with fiberglass or carbon fiber pieces (be patient and look for used stuff i have both and spent less than 500 for both by doing this) if you want to get extreme with this run hood pins (you may have to because the hood strut will often warp carbon and you need it to keep the hood from moving around.
I would also get rid of your stock rims, im assuming you have the 4x100 wheels, there is no shortage of cheap wheel that can be had which weigh next to nothing again i would recommend looking for used stuff vs stock although the new stuff can be had for next to nothing.
I dont know what model car you have but getting rid of things like power windows is a big move in the right direction... speaking of which if anyone wants to trade their manual windows for my power ones...
In short there is a lot of room to reduce weight on these cars if you look.... I would leave the a/c in if i were you.
*** REMEMBER THIS***
take a 2500lb car with 140 hp and thats 17.9lbs/hp so by removing 18lbs that ratio is the same as adding 1hp to your car and that number exaggerates every time you do it 20lbs may not seem like a lot but remember its all about power to weight ratio guys.
05-14-2009, 10:45 AM
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things to start with:
1: sound deadening material on struts, behind door panels and in trunk. ( I run a completely gutted trunk and door the only things that are in the door are the wires and structural pieces)
2: remove the carpet from the trunk and any sound deadening material that you find in there
3: plastic screw covers on the base of your seats, on your door handle, and on the door arm rest.
4: get rid of the floor mats
5: get rid of that sub and amp. getting really nice speakers w/ tweeters and a good 4 channel you will be straight.
The next big step i would take is replace your hood and trunk with fiberglass or carbon fiber pieces (be patient and look for used stuff i have both and spent less than 500 for both by doing this) if you want to get extreme with this run hood pins (you may have to because the hood strut will often warp carbon and you need it to keep the hood from moving around.
I would also get rid of your stock rims, im assuming you have the 4x100 wheels, there is no shortage of cheap wheel that can be had which weigh next to nothing again i would recommend looking for used stuff vs stock although the new stuff can be had for next to nothing.
I dont know what model car you have but getting rid of things like power windows is a big move in the right direction... speaking of which if anyone wants to trade their manual windows for my power ones...
In short there is a lot of room to reduce weight on these cars if you look.... I would leave the a/c in if i were you.
*** REMEMBER THIS***
take a 2500lb car with 140 hp and thats 17.9lbs/hp so by removing 18lbs that ratio is the same as adding 1hp to your car and that number exaggerates every time you do it 20lbs may not seem like a lot but remember its all about power to weight ratio guys.
1: sound deadening material on struts, behind door panels and in trunk. ( I run a completely gutted trunk and door the only things that are in the door are the wires and structural pieces)
2: remove the carpet from the trunk and any sound deadening material that you find in there
3: plastic screw covers on the base of your seats, on your door handle, and on the door arm rest.
4: get rid of the floor mats
5: get rid of that sub and amp. getting really nice speakers w/ tweeters and a good 4 channel you will be straight.
The next big step i would take is replace your hood and trunk with fiberglass or carbon fiber pieces (be patient and look for used stuff i have both and spent less than 500 for both by doing this) if you want to get extreme with this run hood pins (you may have to because the hood strut will often warp carbon and you need it to keep the hood from moving around.
I would also get rid of your stock rims, im assuming you have the 4x100 wheels, there is no shortage of cheap wheel that can be had which weigh next to nothing again i would recommend looking for used stuff vs stock although the new stuff can be had for next to nothing.
I dont know what model car you have but getting rid of things like power windows is a big move in the right direction... speaking of which if anyone wants to trade their manual windows for my power ones...
In short there is a lot of room to reduce weight on these cars if you look.... I would leave the a/c in if i were you.
*** REMEMBER THIS***
take a 2500lb car with 140 hp and thats 17.9lbs/hp so by removing 18lbs that ratio is the same as adding 1hp to your car and that number exaggerates every time you do it 20lbs may not seem like a lot but remember its all about power to weight ratio guys.
05-14-2009, 10:49 AM
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things to start with:
1: sound deadening material on struts, behind door panels and in trunk. ( I run a completely gutted trunk and door the only things that are in the door are the wires and structural pieces)
2: remove the carpet from the trunk and any sound deadening material that you find in there
3: plastic screw covers on the base of your seats, on your door handle, and on the door arm rest.
4: get rid of the floor mats
5: get rid of that sub and amp. getting really nice speakers w/ tweeters and a good 4 channel you will be straight.
The next big step i would take is replace your hood and trunk with fiberglass or carbon fiber pieces (be patient and look for used stuff i have both and spent less than 500 for both by doing this) if you want to get extreme with this run hood pins (you may have to because the hood strut will often warp carbon and you need it to keep the hood from moving around.
I would also get rid of your stock rims, im assuming you have the 4x100 wheels, there is no shortage of cheap wheel that can be had which weigh next to nothing again i would recommend looking for used stuff vs stock although the new stuff can be had for next to nothing.
I dont know what model car you have but getting rid of things like power windows is a big move in the right direction... speaking of which if anyone wants to trade their manual windows for my power ones...
In short there is a lot of room to reduce weight on these cars if you look.... I would leave the a/c in if i were you.
*** REMEMBER THIS***
take a 2500lb car with 140 hp and thats 17.9lbs/hp so by removing 18lbs that ratio is the same as adding 1hp to your car and that number exaggerates every time you do it 20lbs may not seem like a lot but remember its all about power to weight ratio guys.
1: sound deadening material on struts, behind door panels and in trunk. ( I run a completely gutted trunk and door the only things that are in the door are the wires and structural pieces)
2: remove the carpet from the trunk and any sound deadening material that you find in there
3: plastic screw covers on the base of your seats, on your door handle, and on the door arm rest.
4: get rid of the floor mats
5: get rid of that sub and amp. getting really nice speakers w/ tweeters and a good 4 channel you will be straight.
The next big step i would take is replace your hood and trunk with fiberglass or carbon fiber pieces (be patient and look for used stuff i have both and spent less than 500 for both by doing this) if you want to get extreme with this run hood pins (you may have to because the hood strut will often warp carbon and you need it to keep the hood from moving around.
I would also get rid of your stock rims, im assuming you have the 4x100 wheels, there is no shortage of cheap wheel that can be had which weigh next to nothing again i would recommend looking for used stuff vs stock although the new stuff can be had for next to nothing.
I dont know what model car you have but getting rid of things like power windows is a big move in the right direction... speaking of which if anyone wants to trade their manual windows for my power ones...
In short there is a lot of room to reduce weight on these cars if you look.... I would leave the a/c in if i were you.
*** REMEMBER THIS***
take a 2500lb car with 140 hp and thats 17.9lbs/hp so by removing 18lbs that ratio is the same as adding 1hp to your car and that number exaggerates every time you do it 20lbs may not seem like a lot but remember its all about power to weight ratio guys.
Its not a race car, and he will need the A/C. A stock Cobalt is about 18lb/hp. Even if he removes 100lb his weight to power ratio is still only going to be 17.5lb/hp. If it was going to be a serious drag car and he was really putting out some power that 100 would make a difference, but he isn't so he shouldn't.
*** Also ***
By removing the A/C you are not reducing the rotational mass by much. It would be a negligable difference in a daily driver. When the A/C is not engaged it rotates freely and creates almost no drag.
05-14-2009, 11:02 AM
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Dude AC is the greatest invention since those slices of ham with the little specs of cheese in them... I love AC.. I dont care if my car was a slow **** wagon, as long as it had cool air...
The person who invented AC needs a Nobel peace prize.. because he made this world alot happier place, he has saved lives and reduced teenage pregnancy..
Don't do it... be thankful that you are blessed with AC and use it..
The person who invented AC needs a Nobel peace prize.. because he made this world alot happier place, he has saved lives and reduced teenage pregnancy..
Don't do it... be thankful that you are blessed with AC and use it..
05-14-2009, 11:16 AM
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No. I'd say the cons outweigh the pros in this situation. No sooner than you going through the hell of taking it all out would a gigantic heat wave come through and you would be sweating your ***** off wishing you had AC.
05-14-2009, 11:40 AM
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yeah I dont think itd make much diff. only reason I took mine outta the CRX was for the intercooler and turbo space , plus its an 89 so it dont really matter you know? I mean I dont use my ac much either I like riding with the windows down. but on a cobalt , I think if you EVER MAYBE EVEN JUST A LITTLE want to sell it later down the road. dont do it.
05-14-2009, 11:55 AM
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If your goal is to strip the entire interior down to bare metal and turn it into a complete race car, then go ahead and do it. Taking just the AC out makes about as much sense as having a girlfriend take just her shirt off. While the end result is a little more pleasing than before (sometimes), you're always going to be a little disappointed in the end.
05-14-2009, 12:03 PM
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If your goal is to strip the entire interior down to bare metal and turn it into a complete race car, then go ahead and do it. Taking just the AC out makes about as much sense as having a girlfriend take just her shirt off. While the end result is a little more pleasing than before (sometimes), you're always going to be a little disappointed in the end.
05-14-2009, 02:00 PM
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05-14-2009, 04:05 PM
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Phil, stop trying to make your damn 2.2 a race car. Its a daily driven STREET CAR, so leave the freakin A/C intact, even if you don't use it. Lets say you DO someday get a hot date. You don't wanna be taking some hot slwhore out to dinner on a hot summer night w/o A/C. Otherwise her hair is gonna get all frizzed the **** out and shes gonna bitch and moan until the cows come home. KEEP THE A/C!!!!!
Taking the A/C out of a 20 year old car is alot different than taking the A/C out of a 1 year old car. I mean yeah, if I had some old 240 (no offense), it wouldn't matter one way or the other what I had in the car, just as long as the bitch ran.
Taking the A/C out of a 20 year old car is alot different than taking the A/C out of a 1 year old car. I mean yeah, if I had some old 240 (no offense), it wouldn't matter one way or the other what I had in the car, just as long as the bitch ran.
it is a race car lol, i am racing it. and i have a gf thank you very much
If your goal is to strip the entire interior down to bare metal and turn it into a complete race car, then go ahead and do it. Taking just the AC out makes about as much sense as having a girlfriend take just her shirt off. While the end result is a little more pleasing than before (sometimes), you're always going to be a little disappointed in the end.
ya know that simple statement swayed my decision the most lol.
yea but there not THAT much heavier than the stock ones and with the trade off of a super gripy tire i think its worth it.
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05-14-2009, 04:28 PM
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it really sucks when hot out and rainy. my old lumina didn't have a/c girls haaaattteed it, i'd get all sweaty driving a mile. i had to keep spare clothes in the car
05-14-2009, 04:43 PM
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If you want yo gf to ride in your car..... then don't do it. she'll hate you if you do.
/end thread.
i had one too. ac didnt work either... couldnt do anything about it either bc it wasnt even in a spot that could be reached. and yes i hated it.. and yesh i got sweaty... 
/end thread.
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05-14-2009, 05:13 PM
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and tell me why someone just became a friend of your girlfriend on facebook...
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05-14-2009, 08:42 PM
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Keep the A/C Phil, youre going crazy. It doesnt even work at WOT throttle, so youre not losing any power anyway.
Get yourself a AAA membership, then remove your spare tire, lug wrench and jack. Youll lose just as much if not MORE weight that way.
Get a BRAILLE battery, youll drop another 20lbs.
Get yourself a AAA membership, then remove your spare tire, lug wrench and jack. Youll lose just as much if not MORE weight that way.
Get a BRAILLE battery, youll drop another 20lbs.