Novajoe

personally I'd take a tc over a base model cobalt any day. *puts on flame suite

JRelly

I agree

D4u2s0t

i think i would too. my brother's tc just felt so much more expensive than my 2.2 did. everything about it was nicer. 7 speaker pioneer stock, 17" rims, just had a lot of stuff that the cobalt didn't.

JRelly

yea a base scion Tc is just put together with alot more care than the base cobalt, the base Tc is almost as good as their top of the line Tc

DallasCobalt

Including the higher price tag.

slick54

i agree stock for stock it will be close depends on the driver. But here in miami there are so many lil jdm kids who think that scions can take vipers lambos anything it hilarious one of them didnt want to race my cause he goes man u have a turbo cause of the sound my intake made what an idoit .
they **** me off

JRelly

not by much, they are the same price as a 2.4 SS if not cheaper

D4u2s0t

my loaded lt was 18,000, which is normal in my area. my brother got his tc for less than that.

Novajoe

I bet the tcs don't spend every weekend at the dealer for repairs either...

JRelly

you live in miami....not hating on hispanics or anything but many of them are rice and have big egos. No im not being racist its just the way things are

haha +1 on that, my friend hasnt any problems for over a year and a half now

tonio5555

Good friend of mine has an auto TC with a TRD exhaust. I've been meaning to run him for some time. When I do run him I'll have Intake and full SS exhaust. I'll definetly dig up this thread and let you all know how it goes. I've driven his car and I do expect it to be a close race.

JRelly

are you auto...if not you will destroy him, like i stated before my 2.2 OHV cavalier pulled one

slick54

i agree with u am hispanic and they think their toyota camry with a muffler can beat the world their egos are to high down here if ur not jdm watch out they will fight u it soooo stupid. and when they get beat by a cobalt the world comes to a end

D4u2s0t

side note, did you ever get those springs on?

Novajoe

racing in a camry=

slckrjay

Off of Car and Driver-
2006 Cobalt LS-DIMENSIONS:
Interior Volume, Total: 97 cu ft Front: 50 cu ft Rear: 33 cu ft Cargo: 14 cu ft
Wheelbase: 103.3 in Length: 180.3 in Width: 67.9 in Height: 55.7 in
Curb Weight: 2730 lb

2006 Scion tC-DIMENSIONS:
Interior Volume, Total: 98 cu ft Front: 49 cu ft Rear: 36 cu ft Cargo: 13 cu ft
Wheelbase: 106.3 in Length: 174.0 in Width: 69.1 in Height: 55.7 in
Curb Weight: 2970 lb

2007 Scion tC-DIMENSIONS:
Interior Volume, Total: 98 cu ft Front: 49 cu ft Rear: 36 cu ft Cargo: 13 cu ft
Wheelbase: 106.3 in Length: 174.0 in Width: 69.1 in Height: 55.7 in
Curb Weight: 2901 lb

All Cobalt models are same weight. Enjoy

Novajoe

so assuming that's wet weight, they've got about 200 lbs of lard on us. But then they have more hp... so it evens out.

I just wish our aftermarket was HALF as big as theirs.

JRelly

Every 200 pounds gives you a tenth of a second, its really not that big of a difference. That ratio was given to me by a local drag champion. so please dont qoute me on that

Novajoe

really it depends on the car and how much power it has. I've see cars where every 100lbs give it a tenth and I've seen trucks where it takes almost 400lbs to take a tenth off.

JRelly

yea i agree....i was just trying to make the point that 200 pounds is not that much of a difference, maybe in top fuel cars or funny cars but not in stock street cars.

Black07LS

My LS was only $11,000.

D4u2s0t

well, you don't live in my area, and it's probably the base model of all base models. you have to crank your windows right?

Jn2

iTrader: (1)

i didnt bother reading thru this whole thread, but by the title ima say the 2.2, mainly cuz i've raced a tc, and i beat him by a good car, we ran from a stop, i pulled and stayed ahead the whole time, and yes i hve a 2.2, my mods were a short ram intake and a freeflowing muffler

HunterKiller89

iTrader: (1)

my LS was $13k out the door, woulda been $1k more for power everything

as for the race...i raced what i believe to be an automatic scion tc in my auto LS with the mods below and won. stayed even through first gear, second gear i pulled 2 cars on him, n we stopped racing when i hit 3rd gear (about 70-75)

D4u2s0t

yea, other areas of the country are cheaper i've noticed. the ls's are cheaper, the loaded lt's go for about 18k usually. new ss/sc's have around 25k stickers here. you can usually get them for less though.