i what point would you guys suggest putting engine and transmission mounts on the 2.2? IMO id say that its not really neccesary unless youre going to sc/tc your car, but i have a friend who thinks seems to think different...

 

i have them, make a world of difference, suggest you get them, they really do help, check out
http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...idproduct=4938

 

Do they make them for the 2.4? Or are they just the same? How about compatibility with an auto..?

 

the 2.4's are the same, as far as for auto's PM TTR about it

 

Same mounts. I have removed them of of SS/SC's and my auto.

 

It is alot different. You don't need a whole lot of hp to wheel hop.

Shifting feels much better as well.

 

if you buy the solid upper engine mount off turbo tech racing it gives you the option to get a transmission bushing kit. does this bushing kit act the same as a transmission mount set would?

 

never it's a 2.2 l, untill you turbo or boost it it'll always be a slow econocar.....

 

bwawhahaa

 

on a lightly modded car it can help but not necessary

if you are running any kind of power adder they are definitely recommended

 

lol if your wheelhopping a 2.2 your doing something wrong.

 

You mean I shouldn't launch in sand and puddles? lulz

 

HAHAHA definately not a light dusting of snow either

 

wrong!any cobalt wheel hops..my 2.2 has wheel hopped a couple times

 

doing something wrong? uh its wheel hop. basically any car out on the road can wheel hop. there are too many factors the equate to wheel hop, and power is not one of them (if that is what was intended). i finally removed my wheel hop after buying different tires and wheels (been through three different kinds of tires before it went away).

poly engine mounts are never necessary in any case, but improve upon stock mounts. more durable, and reduce, sometimes eliminate, engine movement. which means more power to the wheels. the mounts are not needed even with major power adders. stock mounts work fine, as long as they are in good shape and you know how to drive (which doesnt mean years of experience).

 

yup any car on the road CAN wheelhop. I agree.
if you drive it wrong.

now heres the kicker, heres the part where your all gonna froth at the mouth, and a certain moderator is likely to give me a ban enema, but heres the gods honest truth.
the 2.2 does not have the power to cause wheelhop if its launched properly.


there. I said it.

call me whatever you want. but the truth is the truth.

 

I have to agree, I auto crossed and dragged my 2.2 and never wheelhopped it.

 

and there it is, IT DOESNT MATTER ABOUT THE POWER! a 88hp civic can wheel hop, my saturn that runs like its on its last leg can wheel hop.

there are too many factors that contribute to wheel hop, and i said power is not one of them. so the "truth" about the power is not the reason to base an opinion. and anyways, what does power have to do with it when there is a multiplier between the power producer and the wheels? hmmmmmm, think. how can a car, say a gsr integra that makes power high in the rpm, have wheel hop? well lets see, the torque multiplier!!! what is that? the transmission. it may produce low torque from the engine, but the transmission makes up for that.

sorry for having to make that go off topic more, but had to set it straight

 

power is not a factor with wheelhop?
myself, and everyone who knows what their talkin about, probably stopped reading right there.

you only set one thing straight in your post.
and it wasnt about wheelhop.

 

HAHAHA, you really dont know what your talking about. if one sole thing matters more then any, it is tires.

but okay, you say it doesnt have enough power. will here is an experiment.............. get someones dyno numbers, okay now it gets tricky. find the driveline loss percentage between wheel horsepower and flywheel power. now use that percentage on the wheel torque number. hanging in there? now get the gear ratio in which gear it was run in and final drive gear (differential) and multiply them together. now take the wheel torque (after percentage loss) and multiply it by total gearing ratio and then tell me if there is enough power. and even if it was run in 3rd gear, the number will be high enough to show (in your mind) that it could wheel hop. now insert first gear instead into that, and watch your jaw drop.

want to argue anymore? i know what im talking about. torque is obsolete, the gear ratios make it. power isnt everything like most everyone thinks for anything. i hate having to take a topic off discussion, but when there is misinformation then people need to learn. if you cant figure out that equation, then dont argue anymore and if you do figure it out, you will find it has more then enough power to wheel hop.

 

What happened to M-Dub?

 

Mine wheel hops after rolling through the water box, any suggestions

 

thats a very special post, I love the way you talk to people like you are a college professor, and everyone but you knows nothing.
so much respect in your tone. it makes me feel warm and fuzzy.
but it still doesnt change the fact that a properly launched 2.2 should have no issues with wheelhop.

btw, dont ever forget, mr professor, that YOU said power has NOTHING to do with wheelhop.
you lose any right to talk like you know something, when you make a comment as stupid as that.

 

Aren't warm fuzzies great, an0m?


I can never figure out why everyone has something to prove. Its only t3h int4rw3bz.

 

i think what yellow is missing is not that his car CANT wheel hop but it SHOULDNT if he's launching properly. hell, i could make my 97 2.2 cav auto wheel hop slightly back in the day but i had to absolutely floor it with no regard for my tires or proper launching.