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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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downpipe installation, bolt problem

Heyllo!

Does anyone have any tips on removing the bolts that hold the manifold and the downpipe together?

So far I can't even budge the bolts. I can't fit my impact wrench in the either. I tried cutting the bolt but don't have enough room in there to position the dremel correctly.

So now I have 2 bolts that won't move and one that is only half a bolt but still stands strong lol.

Anybody fought with those before?

If i could remove the 2 that haven't been touched yet im sure i could somehow "rip" the other one apart but at the moment i am all out of ideas (after literally about 15 hours of trying...)

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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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gotta get the impact in there. Use about 3 feet of extension, worked for me.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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Did you somehow fit it from the top of the engine bay, or from under the car? Under the car is very hard for me because i only have those little ramps that i can use (and my head is big so i hit myself on the lower components of the engine lol).
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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it was a big, big bitch for me too... me and my father were putting in my downpipe, and what we finally ended up doing was putting the wrench on the bolt... then we took a sledgehammer, and put the wood part (not the big mallet part) against the wrench and i pushed... popped off no problem... before we came up with that idea, we sat there for no exageration a full hour taking turns trying to loosen the bitch... basically, you need more torque on the wrench...
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mutant
Did you somehow fit it from the top of the engine bay, or from under the car? Under the car is very hard for me because i only have those little ramps that i can use (and my head is big so i hit myself on the lower components of the engine lol).
Yeah, under the car, but I had the car on a lift. I don't know about doing it on the ground. Also, try running the car for 1-2 mins first, let the pipe get some heat in it. May help with frozen bolts a little bit.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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i was able to get them all from the top...
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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Ok, thanks guys. Ill try 2nd suggestion first since it doesn't invlove another trip to a store, hehe.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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pvc pipe on the end of the wrench? gives you alot of extra leverage...
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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i soaked the bolts over night in penetrating lube(sounds dirty lol) and then i reafed them by hand, i tore up my knuckles to **** but i got them off. u got them from up top!
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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Ive been spraying them with 3 kinds of lubes, for 2 days, and still nothing unfortunately. Hopefully when i try again tommorrow it will work.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mutant
Ive been spraying them with 3 kinds of lubes, for 2 days, and still nothing unfortunately. Hopefully when i try again tommorrow it will work.
did you try getting something to leverage it with? like i suggested, a sledgehammer? if you don't have one, anything long will do... above was suggested pvc pipe, or really and pipe, or even a hammer to give the wrench a lil tap
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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I used a 1/2 inch rachet from the top. Put a 1 1/4" closed end wrench over the end to use for leverage. Cowboy-up and pull hard enough to break the studs. That's what I did.

Good luck.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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If you have a steel pipe that can fit over the handle of the wrench and is long enough to give you some extra leverage then try that. All you will need to worry about then is just keeping the wrench on the actuall bolts.

As others have said it is just a matter of extra torque.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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this mod sounds like a blast! i cant wait until i have to do it.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by xspyder85x
this mod sounds like a blast! i cant wait until i have to do it.
haha... give your bolts a good soak before you try, and that should be enough... if it wasn't for that one damn bolt, the whole thing would have taken about 10 minutes... it's really not hard, if they're stuck there's plenty of good advice here for getting them off
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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Just got back from work, ill be trying all the advice now. Hopefully it works, and if it works on the 2 bolts i haven't screwed up, then i pray i will be able to get the other one off lol...

Omg............... I found my other wrench that is almost twice as long as my other one, and the length gave me enough torque....
So much time wasted, if i only found this wrench sooner lol

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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mutant
Did you somehow fit it from the top of the engine bay, or from under the car? Under the car is very hard for me because i only have those little ramps that i can use (and my head is big so i hit myself on the lower components of the engine lol).

dude dont get under a car without jack stands
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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actualy, i think he should be ok with the ramps as long as he set his parking break and left it in a gear.

but what amazes me is...how the hell did you get it on those ramps? ive tried and my car sits to low. each time i did it, i stacked 2x4's on top of each other in a ramp like fashion, just so i can get under there to change the oil.


Good thing I have a lift now
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