2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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drove an SS/SC today

i drove my buddies yea yea yea...just to see how it felt, and what a differance the steering is so damn tight which i def liked and i loooooooved the shift feel, so smooth... what is the differance between the 2.2 and the sssc with the steering and the shifting, oh and didnt really realize how quick it was i couldnt imagine if someone modded it(it was bone stock) oh the reason was cuz im turbo in the summer and wanted to feel the diff in power im pumped, but can anyone tell me why its such tight steering and whats the diff is between 2.2s and sssc with diff feel of the shift ***... its very smooth
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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cant speak for the steering but SS/SC has a factory short shifter so the throws are much shorter.

and yes there is a night and day difference between a stock 2.2 and stock 2.0...there should be, it has almost double the HP
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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Wait until you drive an SS/TC!
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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I drove an SC for the first time a little while ago and another one last week. With the first one, I was impressed with the whine and obviously it pulls harder than my 2.4... but I hate the clutch/first gear and visibility with that damn wing sucked. Second one was stock and you can barely hear the whine. I do, however, love the ground effects. Nice car mind you and I"m not envious since I had the opportunity to get both - but I'm happy with my 2.4.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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i know the steering rack is different for the le5 suspension then the 2.2's (cause i just bought one) im sure it has a different steering ratio, which could make it feel tighter; aside from that I believe the rest is close to the same.
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Old May 1, 2009 | 03:30 AM
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i always thought my fully bolted 2.2 would keep up with it but uh no way haha...thank god im turbo in the summer and shifter might be next on the agenda
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Old May 6, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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Question: Why did GM take the smaller engine and supercharge it instead of the bigger one (the 2.4 or 2.2) and make the 2.0 the eco-friendly LS? What are the advantages of supercharging a smaller engine?
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Old May 6, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by deerhuntr88
Question: Why did GM take the smaller engine and supercharge it instead of the bigger one (the 2.4 or 2.2) and make the 2.0 the eco-friendly LS? What are the advantages of supercharging a smaller engine?
gas mileage.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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more reliable for boost.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by deerhuntr88
Question: Why did GM take the smaller engine and supercharge it instead of the bigger one (the 2.4 or 2.2) and make the 2.0 the eco-friendly LS? What are the advantages of supercharging a smaller engine?
some ricer in a 2.2 was asking my gf this a few days back after he told all her friends he smoked me in the Wal-Mart parking lot
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Old May 6, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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So I'm sure this has been said/asked before, but o well. Theoretically if I put everything that was in a stock SS/SC in my 2.2, I should come out on top, no? I know it's not practical, but that's why its a theoretical question... just wondering.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by deerhuntr88
Question: Why did GM take the smaller engine and supercharge it instead of the bigger one (the 2.4 or 2.2) and make the 2.0 the eco-friendly LS? What are the advantages of supercharging a smaller engine?
It's a de-stroked 2.2L. De-stroking allows for a better top end and higher rev capability. Supercharging a small displacement engine is good for having power on demand for lightweight road course vehicles (Mini Cooper S, Aerial Atom, Lotus Exige S).

Originally Posted by deerhuntr88
So I'm sure this has been said/asked before, but o well. Theoretically if I put everything that was in a stock SS/SC in my 2.2, I should come out on top, no? I know it's not practical, but that's why its a theoretical question... just wondering.
You could do it to a certain point until the internals failed. You'd want a lower compression piston for boosted applications too.

Why did they switch to turbo?

It's more popular, and better potential for power gain.

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Old May 6, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcS
Why did they switch to turbo?

It's more popular, and better potential for power gain.
As well as the expiry of the Eaton contract, and LSJ no longer meeting emissions.
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